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post #31 of 48 Old March 7th, 2019, 05:33 PM
 
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Thanks guys I'll likely pull the trigger on the ECU. Worst case I have to finish back to stock.
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Im heading down to ashland mid may from the 15th to the 19th. I got a cabin at ashland and taking my 1000xp and also rented a rzr for my 2 girls to use for 2 days. Im planning on mostly easy trails with them. Maybe on the third day ill get on some black trails.
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Re: Hatfield McCoy trails

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I rode Bear Wallow and Buffalo over the weekend. On Buffalo, it connects to Devils Anse and you can ride that all the way to Rockhouse. Going there an back is close to 100 miles round trip depending on where you start. You can do that one day and ride Buffalo the 2nd day. Bear Wallow you can cover easily in a day, but if you have the outlaw trails on a GPS or Tablet you can ride a lot more. I'll be in Mullins riding Indian Ridge/Pinnacle/Pocahontas on May 2-3-4.
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How are the trails in the Poca/IR/PC area with all the rain we've had lately? Are they rutted out badly? Deep mud? Will be heading down in 2 weeks with family and my father in full tourist mode. I don't have a winch and my father will be in a rented RZR and my daughter likely on a 2wd quad, so we'll be sticking mostly to easier Green/Blue trails but curious if there are any trails/areas we should avoid. Would also like to try some of the outlaws if possible, but again, have to keep the risk pretty low. I do have a Samsung 10" tablet with BobT's latest maps.
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Was at PC Saturday and trails were fine. A bit dusty in places, but otherwise fine. Areas of PO and IR are closed, so make sure you get a paper map from the TH or print one from trailsheaven.com.

As for outlaws, you need to be careful. Mines are reopening and several of the popular outlaw trails are now off limits. The most popular spot, The View, will be closed soon, but not sure when. I have heard any day now and June. So it may be one of those things you just have to wait and see. There were close to 50 machines up there Saturday. And a marriage proposal.

Also DNR is out on the trails. Some guy posted bitching on one of the FB pages that he got a ticket and is never coming back. Well, he rode up on an officer with his helmet off, so he deserved a ticket. I think he caught a break because his wife wasn't cited as well. So just follow the rules and have a good time.
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Was at PC Saturday and trails were fine. A bit dusty in places, but otherwise fine. Areas of PO and IR are closed, so make sure you get a paper map from the TH or print one from trailsheaven.com.

As for outlaws, you need to be careful. Mines are reopening and several of the popular outlaw trails are now off limits. The most popular spot, The View, will be closed soon, but not sure when. I have heard any day now and June. So it may be one of those things you just have to wait and see. There were close to 50 machines up there Saturday. And a marriage proposal.

Also DNR is out on the trails. Some guy posted bitching on one of the FB pages that he got a ticket and is never coming back. Well, he rode up on an officer with his helmet off, so he deserved a ticket. I think he caught a break because his wife wasn't cited as well. So just follow the rules and have a good time.
Good info, thanks. We're staying in Mullens the first weekend in May and will ride Pinnacle and probably head down to Indian Ridge. I'm on that FB page too. Honestly HMT trails have been really out of control over the last few years. There is no wonder there is some cracking down out there. If you want to go to lawless trails, try Brimstone, it's private property. It's a lot rougher than HMT. I'm actually supposed to be heading there this weekend. But I took a tumble off my ATV at TWRA last weekend and hopefully I'll be mended up to go this weekend. TWRA was in okay shape, the bulldozers were out doing some maintenance. But honestly I'm not taking my Brute Force back to TN probably ever. I'll stick with my RZR. At 51 years old I have to start looking at my long term health vs. short term fun on a ATV.
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Thanks guys, Im not too worried about dust. Mostly just deep ruts, heavy mud, washouts, etc... Things that would be difficult for my father and/or daughter to navigate, plus things to get hung up and possibly damage my RZR. We're just wanting to ride and enjoy the trails, not test our driving skillz

I joined that Facebook page too and have been following the closings and crackdown. But Im pretty low risk, especially with my wife and kids in the car with me. I see nothing wrong with getting a ticket for no helmet. Its the rules, they run the trails, they make the rules. Having anywhere decent to ride on the east coast is a privilege, not a right.
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Thanks guys, Im not too worried about dust. Mostly just deep ruts, heavy mud, washouts, etc... Things that would be difficult for my father and/or daughter to navigate, plus things to get hung up and possibly damage my RZR. We're just wanting to ride and enjoy the trails, not test our driving skillz

I joined that Facebook page too and have been following the closings and crackdown. But Im pretty low risk, especially with my wife and kids in the car with me. I see nothing wrong with getting a ticket for no helmet. Its the rules, they run the trails, they make the rules. Having anywhere decent to ride on the east coast is a privilege, not a right.
You will love HMT then. Brimstone is full of deep ruts, wash outs, deep mud, and tough trails. A few years ago trial 5 on Brimstone was a blue, now it's a red and very difficult. They just don't have the rock base down there like they do in WV. I would suggest you get googles for everyone in your ride. Otherwise the dust will annoy your eyes. The windshield is no help when it comes to the dust. Pray for some rain the night before!!
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I've been riding Brimstone for close to ten years and I'm wondering where the deep ruts and mud are located. There are some trails with mud but very few. There is everything from easy to difficult. Trail 5 is still easy and we use it as a connector to get to the difficult trails. Sorry but Brimstone and Windrock put HMT trailsystem to shame. But then again I don't like riding dusty gravel logging roads.
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Joe, I have to agree with you. After riding HMT for several years and riding Brimstone for several years there is no comparison. Hands down Brimstone is waaaaay more challenging.
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Both systems have their appeal.

Challenging trails are definitely in all of the Tennessee systems. With some moderate easy faster paced trails. It’s the place to go for climbing technique based challenge.
In most cases at any given point you can “exit stage left/right” and find that off of the easier trails in Tennessee.

HMT and Spearhead’s appeal is the ability to ride to a destination for food gas lodging on the charted maps and do it over the course of long weekends. Use the local highways to assist in getting to that destination. Pulling into town and parking at the local restaurant is just kind of cool.
Be with nature. Take the kids on their quads or dirt bikes.
I Have watched my kids evolve on the HMT systems.
There are “a few” places to go find some more challenge and the outlaw trails provide a little more but I like going to each type several times a year for these different reasons.
Tennessee is becoming more publicity mapped out but it still is not a go buy a map and get the details of where to go for what. Brimstone does offer this, it being a private entity.
Renting or buying a tablet have become the go to form for getting around the TWRA. Expensive for some riders.
The different permits required confuse a lot of people as to what and how to buy a permit to ride where.
For someone only able to come out of state and spend a long weekend as first timers the WV VA systems just make it easier to do. Plan out and know what you’re getting into ahead of time.

The helmet law bothers some WV VA riders.
I don’t have an issue with it personally.

Overall anytime I’m in the RZR and there is dirt/rock of some sort under the tires I’m a happy guy.




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I've been riding Brimstone for close to ten years and I'm wondering where the deep ruts and mud are located. There are some trails with mud but very few. There is everything from easy to difficult. Trail 5 is still easy and we use it as a connector to get to the difficult trails. Sorry but Brimstone and Windrock put HMT trailsystem to shame. But then again I don't like riding dusty gravel logging roads.
I'll be at Brimstone this weekend and find out if I am being told correctly. I stayed there two weeks ago but took a tumble off my Brute Force on a TRWA trail and had to go home early. Now keep in mind I look at the trials as riding a ATV, not a SXS. I like to ride my ATV the first day, and then the RZR the next day. So rating Brimstone as a RZR rider your going to have a whole different opinion. The ruts are not an issue on a RZR. The last time I rode Brimstone was I think in September. So maybe they did some maintenance. I just turned 51, so I think God is telling me it's time to turn in the keys to the ATV and just ride my RZR full time! Honestly ATV's are in the minority any more. It's too bad, but I get it. The SXS is an easy way to enjoy the trails without worrying about getting tossed or taking a fall. I see a lot of folks in those 4 seater's with their kids. We never had children, but if we did, and my wife would ride with me, what a great weekend that would be. Mom and dad get to do what they like and the kids have fun too. Hard to find activities like that.
Lastly, I agree HMT and TN trails are much different. What I like about HMT is you can have the best of it all. If you want to open it up on a smooth trial, there are plenty of options. If you want to do challenging things you have the blacks and outlaws. And I really like the option of going into the local towns on your machine for fuel and food. But we did go into La Follette TN and eat and gas up when we rode the Sunquist unit. So that is nice over there. But I don't know where you can do that at Brimstone.
I'm not Bashing Brimstone, I buy a year long pass for there every year. I also purchased a year pass to TWRA this year. It would be nice if TN would have one pass for all the places like HMT, but a lot of the TN trails are private property. Finally you just have to know what to expect on TN trails, and as stated a few times, it's much different than HMT.
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It would be nice if TN would have one pass for all the places like HMT, but a lot of the TN trails are private property.
That would be ideal. Even if there was no discount.

My real issue with TN is you never know what condition a trail is going to be in. Last time at RRB I was in my old Commander and there were a couple of greens I really struggled with due to the ruts. No idea how an ATV would have made it through. At least HM keeps their trails so that Greens are Greens.
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It would be nice if TN would have one pass for all the places like HMT, but a lot of the TN trails are private property.
That would be ideal. Even if there was no discount.

My real issue with TN is you never know what condition a trail is going to be in. Last time at RRB I was in my old Commander and there were a couple of greens I really struggled with due to the ruts. No idea how an ATV would have made it through. At least HM keeps their trails so that Greens are Greens.
Just walked in the door from getting back from Brimstone for 4 days. I saw a bunch of ATVs and I agree they struggle at Brimstone on some of the trails. I saw a whole group of them stuck on 49. We stick to the tougher trails. You might have seen us

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