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Old April 27th, 2011, 03:48 PM   #1
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Risk of riding with bad tie rods?

I noticed I had alot of wear on my tie rods letting my wheels move alot so I ordered new heavy duty ones but haven't gotten them yet. When I turn the wheel I get some popping noise from the one corner. Everyones going riding this weekend and I wanna go but don't wanna tear up more stuff. Anybody have issues with them breaking or will they just continue to wear? Just wanting some imput, hard to go and ride with someone else when yours is sitting at home, just not the same.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 05:44 PM   #2
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Re: Risk of riding with bad tie rods?

The big risk is walking back to your truck and trying to figure out how to recover your RZR when it wont steer because of a broken tie rod.
Better to wait and replace it than to go out knowing that you have a problem, this way you don't have to kick yourself in the ass for being one.
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Re: Risk of riding with bad tie rods?

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I noticed I had alot of wear on my tie rods letting my wheels move alot so I ordered new heavy duty ones but haven't gotten them yet. When I turn the wheel I get some popping noise from the one corner. Everyones going riding this weekend and I wanna go but don't wanna tear up more stuff. Anybody have issues with them breaking or will they just continue to wear? Just wanting some imput, hard to go and ride with someone else when yours is sitting at home, just not the same.
Are you sure that "popping" noise isn't your CV joint going out on your axle.. You shouldn't get that noise from the tie rods, unless you have extensions that are loose or damaged..

Either way, I wouldn't drive on bad tie rods. One turn going 30mph + and one let's go and you are spending some serious doe.... That and could get injured, good luck.
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Re: Risk of riding with bad tie rods?

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I noticed I had alot of wear on my tie rods letting my wheels move alot so I ordered new heavy duty ones but haven't gotten them yet. When I turn the wheel I get some popping noise from the one corner. Everyones going riding this weekend and I wanna go but don't wanna tear up more stuff. Anybody have issues with them breaking or will they just continue to wear? Just wanting some imput, hard to go and ride with someone else when yours is sitting at home, just not the same.
Are you sure that "popping" noise isn't your CV joint going out on your axle.. You shouldn't get that noise from the tie rods, unless you have extensions that are loose or damaged..

Either way, I wouldn't drive on bad tie rods. One turn going 30mph + and one let's go and you are speeding some serious doe.... That and could get injured, good luck.
I agree, it sounds like a bad CV to me ... the tie rods are not going to make any noise ... maybe the ball joint??? naaaa ....I would look at the CV's
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Re: Risk of riding with bad tie rods?

Quote: Originally Posted by smokinsrt View Post
I noticed I had alot of wear on my tie rods letting my wheels move alot so I ordered new heavy duty ones but haven't gotten them yet. When I turn the wheel I get some popping noise from the one corner. Everyones going riding this weekend and I wanna go but don't wanna tear up more stuff. Anybody have issues with them breaking or will they just continue to wear? Just wanting some imput, hard to go and ride with someone else when yours is sitting at home, just not the same.
If it's not a broken CV then I'd check to see if it's a broken hub... The tie rod isn't going to make a popping noise, it might get sloppy but no popping noise...
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If you dis lose a CV out on the trail what happens? Could you just pop it out afterwards and limp it home?

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If you dis lose a CV out on the trail what happens? Could you just pop it out afterwards and limp it home?

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A front one maybe? A rear I doubt your going anywhere. "pop" any out and you lose the fluids ect.. All bad juju. If you lose one (rear) don't count on coming back on your own power. Front, I guess I'd check it out and see if I could limp back w/o "popping" anything out.

UPDATE: I'll add that the differentials are very expensive, trying to jury rig something in the field for anything less than an emergency is a NOGO in my book...
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Re: Risk of riding with bad tie rods?

Out on the trail, the thing breaks, one wheel goes west the other goes east, you stop rather quickly maybe even run into big rock or tree that was minding its own business, bend or break esspensive things in the front end.

Naaaa, never happen.


BUT, anything up to and including the above could happen. I'd fix it first.
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Re: Risk of riding with bad tie rods?

Even if nothing falls apart, you could damage surrounding parts. If it is the tie rods and they are wearing at the spot where the bolts go through the knuckle, and you ride it like that, your new rods might also be loose because the hole is now bigger. You'd have get get it drilled out and a sleeve put in there, or buy a new knuckle.

As others have said, best to bite the bullet, diagnose and fix before riding.
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If you dis lose a CV out on the trail what happens? Could you just pop it out afterwards and limp it home?

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A front one maybe? A rear I doubt your going anywhere. "pop" any out and you lose the fluids ect.. All bad juju. If you lose one (rear) don't count on coming back on your own power. Front, I guess I'd check it out and see if I could limp back w/o "popping" anything out.

UPDATE: I'll add that the differentials are very expensive, trying to jury rig something in the field for anything less than an emergency is a NOGO in my book...
Thanks mike. I never really knew for sure. I hear of people arrying extras. Is it possible to change the rear in the field without loosing much juice from the rear diff? Im not trying to hijack this thread. Sorry.

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Re: Risk of riding with bad tie rods?

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If you dis lose a CV out on the trail what happens? Could you just pop it out afterwards and limp it home?

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A front one maybe? A rear I doubt your going anywhere. "pop" any out and you lose the fluids ect.. All bad juju. If you lose one (rear) don't count on coming back on your own power. Front, I guess I'd check it out and see if I could limp back w/o "popping" anything out.

UPDATE: I'll add that the differentials are very expensive, trying to jury rig something in the field for anything less than an emergency is a NOGO in my book...
Thanks mike. I never really knew for sure. I hear of people arrying extras. Is it possible to change the rear in the field without loosing much juice from the rear diff? Im not trying to hijack this thread. Sorry.

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I saw a thread with pics on a 4-wheeler forum in which they tilted a jeep up almost on its side with a winch to keep the fluids in there, yanked something out, stuffed a rag in there and sealed it off with duct tape. It held well enough for the guy to limp home.

Not saying it's the kind of field repair I'd enjoy doing, but...
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Re: Risk of riding with bad tie rods?

Yeah I really didn't wanna take it for those reasons. I've been working on it at a buddies for a few weeks and everyone wants me to take it. Just doesn't make sense, its been sitting on jack stands for a month. Thats when I noticed the tie rods, I adjust my shocks and springs bring it home and it starts making noise. I wrapped a donut after and it made a loud pop but everything still looks to be okay. How can I tell if its the cv or hub? Hate to sound like a noob but it has me puzzled. I upgraded my front diff back in the winter, if I find out it is the cv or hub what are some good upgrades for a decent cost?

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Re: Risk of riding with bad tie rods?

When the driver side tie rod went out on my RZR I didn't hear any popping. I've had ball joints pop in the past.
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Re: Risk of riding with bad tie rods?

Last two times Ive rode i have broke tie rods. Not happening again. Ill break something else this time. I went to the steel yard and bought 1" cold roll steel and made my own. It is not fun breaking tie rods in the bush.
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