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Anyone else not excited about a turbo model?

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#1 ·
I'm sorry, but for $25K, I'm definitely out. My 1000 goes plenty fast.:ride:
 
#37 ·
$25,000 (starting price)

Poor kid (young man, the target demographic) goes into dealership and puts NOTHING down because Polaris will finance anyone with a pulse.

That's $553/month on 4 yr note. We all know 4 years from now this will be like 800 .. obsolete.

Same kid works hard and has family, so he gets to go out and ride maybe every other month with his friends and family.

That cost PER RIDE = $1,106 .... JUST FOR RZR. Doesn't include gas, toyhauler, food, hotel, park fees, broken parts, or the $750+/mo truck payment required to pull it.




Insanity.
Well on a good note. At least Rzr has a good resale value unlike my wildcat 1000. I think this toy is for the person who wants to pay for the power.
 
#40 ·
$25,000 (starting price)

Poor kid (young man, the target demographic) goes into dealership and puts NOTHING down because Polaris will finance anyone with a pulse.

That's $553/month on 4 yr note. We all know 4 years from now this will be like 800 .. obsolete.

Same kid works hard and has family, so he gets to go out and ride maybe every other month with his friends and family.

That cost PER RIDE = $1,106 .... JUST FOR RZR. Doesn't include gas, toyhauler, food, hotel, park fees, broken parts, or the $750+/mo truck payment required to pull it.

Insanity.
I honestly don't think in 4 years this turbo will be obsolete. I really have a feeling that this market is close to its ceiling on what people will pay for a SxS. I think $30k is max and less and less will be able to afford past that mark.

You can really only do so much when limited to 999cc and trying to keep the width hinders suspension upgrades.

I for one really want the turbo in a 4 seater when they come out. I am happy with my xp4 1k but the main downfall is riding at 5-7k feet you lose so much power it feels like a dog when having 2 people and 400lbs of gear, etc. And I felt that with the weight of my xp4 its always been a strain on the belt.

I can honestly say that if and when I upgrade to the turbo it will be the one I keep for a long time because I can live with 144hp at elevation vs 87hp at 6,000 feet that I have now. Almost double the power, a clutch that is bigger, vents better and sounds like it is designed for the rzr just like sled clutches that can handle 270hp no problem. That coupled with a decent internal bypass shock and sway bars front and rear makes it an ideal machine for the desert where I ride.

I'm looking forward to it, just not really looking forward to selling mine and then still shelling out $10k for it haha.
 
#42 ·
Excited? Sure. Ready to take a bath selling my paid for 14 Black Pearl to buy new again?
No.
I don't need to have the newest fastest anymore. Been there done that in the hillshooter sand rail games a long time ago. Can't afford it and probably wouldn't even if I could. I'll keep the '14 and get it where I want it and enjoy it...saving to work with Ed on shocks right now...
Will be interesting to see what we can retrofit from these onto the XP1K's.
 
#43 ·
$25,000 (starting price)

Poor kid (young man, the target demographic) goes into dealership and puts NOTHING down because Polaris will finance anyone with a pulse.

That's $553/month on 4 yr note. We all know 4 years from now this will be like 800 .. obsolete.

Same kid works hard and has family, so he gets to go out and ride maybe every other month with his friends and family.

That cost PER RIDE = $1,106 .... JUST FOR RZR. Doesn't include gas, toyhauler, food, hotel, park fees, broken parts, or the $750+/mo truck payment required to pull it.

Insanity.
I honestly don't think in 4 years this turbo will be obsolete. I really have a feeling that this market is close to its ceiling on what people will pay for a SxS. I think $30k is max and less and less will be able to afford past that mark.

You can really only do so much when limited to 999cc and trying to keep the width hinders suspension upgrades.

I for one really want the turbo in a 4 seater when they come out. I am happy with my xp4 1k but the main downfall is riding at 5-7k feet you lose so much power it feels like a dog when having 2 people and 400lbs of gear, etc. And I felt that with the weight of my xp4 its always been a strain on the belt.

I can honestly say that if and when I upgrade to the turbo it will be the one I keep for a long time because I can live with 144hp at elevation vs 87hp at 6,000 feet that I have now. Almost double the power, a clutch that is bigger, vents better and sounds like it is designed for the rzr just like sled clutches that can handle 270hp no problem. That coupled with a decent internal bypass shock and sway bars front and rear makes it an ideal machine for the desert where I ride.

I'm looking forward to it, just not really looking forward to selling mine and then still shelling out $10k for it haha.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat... it's that 5,000 foot plus elevation that kills me and where I could really use some extra power. OEM really is the way to go, especially with the new forged internals. With that said, I'll likely keep my '15 XP1K4 for another couple years as I'm really happy with it, but I know as soon as the 4 seater is released, the temptation to upgrade will start creeping in. Definitely not a reasonable hobby $$$ wise. I remember the days when buying a new quad was the only dilemma...
 
#45 ·
$25,000 (starting price)

Poor kid (young man, the target demographic) goes into dealership and puts NOTHING down because Polaris will finance anyone with a pulse.

That's $553/month on 4 yr note. We all know 4 years from now this will be like 800 .. obsolete.

Same kid works hard and has family, so he gets to go out and ride maybe every other month with his friends and family.

That cost PER RIDE = $1,106 .... JUST FOR RZR. Doesn't include gas, toyhauler, food, hotel, park fees, broken parts, or the $750+/mo truck payment required to pull it.

Insanity.
I honestly don't think in 4 years this turbo will be obsolete. I really have a feeling that this market is close to its ceiling on what people will pay for a SxS. I think $30k is max and less and less will be able to afford past that mark.

You can really only do so much when limited to 999cc and trying to keep the width hinders suspension upgrades.

I for one really want the turbo in a 4 seater when they come out. I am happy with my xp4 1k but the main downfall is riding at 5-7k feet you lose so much power it feels like a dog when having 2 people and 400lbs of gear, etc. And I felt that with the weight of my xp4 its always been a strain on the belt.

I can honestly say that if and when I upgrade to the turbo it will be the one I keep for a long time because I can live with 144hp at elevation vs 87hp at 6,000 feet that I have now. Almost double the power, a clutch that is bigger, vents better and sounds like it is designed for the rzr just like sled clutches that can handle 270hp no problem. That coupled with a decent internal bypass shock and sway bars front and rear makes it an ideal machine for the desert where I ride.

I'm looking forward to it, just not really looking forward to selling mine and then still shelling out $10k for it haha.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat... it's that 5,000 foot plus elevation that kills me and where I could really use some extra power. OEM really is the way to go, especially with the new forged internals. With that said, I'll likely keep my '15 XP1K4 for another couple years as I'm really happy with it, but I know as soon as the 4 seater is released, the temptation to upgrade will start creeping in. Definitely not a reasonable hobby $$$ wise. I remember the days when buying a new quad was the only dilemma...
Yea I hear you on that one. Not a reasonable hobby at all, I just need to learn to be satisfied haha. But do think going turbo 4 seater will set me for a long time.

I'm trying to be patient this time and let them be out a year to work our the quirks.

The one positive note is that I can swap all my stuff over (lower doors, windsheld, boxes, spare tire holder, gas cans, etc.) which will save some after the sticker shock.
 
#46 ·
I'm excited to race one this coming year up oldsbobile hill or china wall.
On my 15 year old Banshee :)

For the RzR I think I'm going to save up for a custom cage, suspension and paddles, they would all probably make more difference for dunning than the turbo would anyways. I mean I ride with a group, so I should be fine as long as everyone doesn't get a turbo RzR next year :p
 
#52 ·
I was not too excited to see a new turbo model, not a big deal for me since we do trails mostly and I already have enough power.
But I started to get excited when I heard all the great UPDATES the turbo model has!!!!!
bigger clutch, STRONGER TRANSMISSION with a GEAR REVERSE, better driveline and stronger front drive, stronger brakes....
now these are some upgrades I can sink my teeth into for the xp chassis!!
 
#53 ·
I am excited because these are all parts I foresee trickling over to the 1k owners must have lists. I just wish these upgrades would have come out 2 years ago when they introduced the 1k. Its was a bit disheartening when I bought a brand new $20k 1k only to have a list of must do upgrades before you felt confident in your machine.
 
#55 ·
I'm excited about it. Only people who aren't excited are those who just spent 20k on an NA 1000....which is the exact reason I've been fighting myself on purchasing one. I knew a Turbo was eventually coming, so I stuck with my old 900xp all this time. Now my time has arrived!!
 
#58 ·
With all that said, I still want one. I like OEM, and reliability has value to me, even if it is less hp. Most of my riding doesn't require 200hp. I am more concerened with them fixing out all the kinks and making the most reliable machine as possible. I don't want to have to do a lot of tuning. It kind of looks like they just fixed everything that was wrong with the 1k. Did they fix the out of phased and balanced drive shafts? This was the most annoying thing about the previous model.
 
#62 ·
I have a 2014 1000 4 seat. It is a great trail machine, and I have had it up to 81 mph in the desert, but I loaded it up with a winch and bumpers and Polaris spare tire mount, roof, bumpers, a bunch of tools, a hydraulic jack, a compressor, etc because I have ridden over 60 miles from my truck. All that weight kills performance. I will get the 2 seat turbo as my "hot rod" and will keep it light......just skids, street legal kit and maybe a roof.....keep the 4 seater and have the best of both worlds! My decision now is whether to buy right away or wait a year for Polaris to work out the inevitable first year glitches.
 
#68 ·
Polaris needs to get all the bugs worked out of the xp1k's they have built for the last two years before they start something new. I would never buy the first year edition of anything new again, nothing but problems. Maybe a Turbo about three years from now when the bugs are worked out, not before. Been there done that, twice. 2014 and a 2015, :rm_thumbdown:
 
#70 ·
I hope the turbo drivetrain updates trickle down into the other less HP rzr models to increase durability. The current 2014-2015 drivetrain is too weak for 29" Big Horns and a heavy foot. I'm a huge fan they relocated the voltage regulator, and hope that solves majority of the VR issues for new rzr owners.
 
#73 ·
ha, I doubt you will see a 999cc turbo. 180 hp? way too much liablity. and if I'm correct, you will never see a UTV over 1000cc according to laws defining UTV. Do the research. Turbo doesn't excite me on the east coast for many many reasons. Polaris may have added 40 hp, but thry also added 100lbs plus to the turbo model. The best thing I have done to mine is put it on a diet. Almost under 1400 wet now.
 
#76 ·
ha, I doubt you will see a 999cc turbo. 180 hp? way too much liablity. and if I'm correct, you will never see a UTV over 1000cc according to laws defining UTV. Do the research. Turbo doesn't excite me on the east coast for many many reasons. Polaris may have added 40 hp, but thry also added 100lbs plus to the turbo model. The best thing I have done to mine is put it on a diet. Almost under 1400 wet now.
Stop the insanity.

People been saying "they're not going to break 100hp" due to liability back in 2010. Now it's 2015 it's 180hp. Blah .... it's not true.

There's NO 1,000 cc law (LAW LAW LAW ) None Do the research as you say.

I'm not basing what I know on hearsay. I read facts. The term "law" shouldn't have been used like I did. But there was a committee appointed by the manufacturers to determine and define UTV.


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#78 ·
Anything new is cool, that said the Turbo RZR looks to be badazz.. But as mentioned, the costs are getting "way up" or outta control on these toys. So, It's not in option for me as I don't want to dump my 2015 @ a loss so I can go out & get one. I had a hard time justifying & buying my 2015 with it costing about the same as a very low mileage 2-3 year old import car.. We ride as a group, and stay together as a pack so the extra power means if your the leader in a turbo, you'll be holding back or waiting up for the rest of the crew. Now, when your alone or with other Turbo cars you can go out and use all that power :) Addl options: Change to an all Turbo friend riding/crew base (fast moving pack) :) Sit at the bottom of a hill and race up it all day... Can't wait to see one up close see it go!! Woo who.... !
 
#79 ·
Stop the insanity.

People been saying "they're not going to break 100hp" due to liability back in 2010. Now it's 2015 it's 180hp. Blah .... it's not true.

There's NO 1,000 cc law (LAW LAW LAW ) None Do the research as you say.

I'm not basing what I know on hearsay. I read facts. The term "law" shouldn't have been used like I did. But there was a committee appointed by the manufacturers to determine and define UTV.


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Yes, a committee, in which current manufacturers have a hand shake agreement with.... they can choose to break this agreement AT ANY TIME.

This is NOT a law.

I'm not critiquing you per se ... but there's so many internet rumors calling this 1000cc a "law" when in fact it's NOT a law. The jet ski manufacturers use to have such an agreement years and year ago ... all it took was ONE manufacturer to break it and all the others followed suit. Eventually the same will happen with UTV and SxS.
You are both right?

The agreement between manufacturers is in fact voluntary. It even says as much on their website.

ANSI Standard

Based on that agreement, california passed a law defining ROV's as being under 1000 cc.

Section 500 on this page:
CA Codes (veh:100-680)


There is no federal law about it. However there are some standards required by the CPSC, none of which have anything to do with engine size(at least currently).
 
#86 ·
You are both right?

The agreement between manufacturers is in fact voluntary. It even says as much on their website.

ANSI Standard

Based on that agreement, california passed a law defining ROV's as being under 1000 cc.

Section 500 on this page:
CA Codes (veh:100-680)


There is no federal law about it. However there are some standards required by the CPSC, none of which have anything to do with engine size(at least currently).
Yep. And it is really foggy. Why can a 1000HP sand rail in CA get a ROV permit?? Kind of makes ya go HMMMMMMM. Same here in Colorado. 1000CC limit for UTVs, yet my buddy can go down and get an offroad sticker for his Jimmys buggy.

Sam
Honestly think, if the sand rails with 500 HP + power will get in mass production as RZR's you will see some kind of regulation on them too. IMO
Be happy they still let us to build them without any restrictions, even in CA.
milos
Oh don't get me wrong, I am all for it. And I understand the process behind it. It just shows how government regulations are so all over the board. Read the regulations and try and make sense out of them. :rofl3::ride:

Sam

Sam
 
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