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post #1 of 12 Old April 11th, 2012, 02:19 PM Thread Starter
 
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stock rims, covered under warranty????

can anyone tell if the stock rims are covered under warranty? broke a front rim pretty good

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post #2 of 12 Old April 11th, 2012, 03:49 PM
 
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Re: stock rims, covered under warranty????

It depends on how its broke. If you hit a rock or something and broke it like that I would say not. If it just sheard off at the lugs I would say yes. Wouldnt hurt to take it in and see though..
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I kinda doubt stock rims are covered, but ITP's are.
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Re: stock rims, covered under warranty????

I've seen numerous ones that had 12" wheels where rocks got up inside of the wheel and bounced around then "wedged" between the wheels inside surface and the brake caliper which proceeded to jamb a corner of the rock right through the rim. You don't hardly ever see that problem with 14" wheels since they have extra space between the rim and the caliper.

Anyways, in answer to your question I know at least a couple of people who went to a local dealer that's known for going to bat for their customers who made the argument that having 12" wheels without enough clearance between the wheel and caliper is just asking to have that happen with rocks and was able to get Polaris to replace the wheel under warranty in some of those instances. Though I know even more people who had it happen who's dealers were not able (or maybe didn't even bother trying very hard) to get it coverd, if not just outright telling the customer it wouldn't be without even checking with Polaris. 12" wheels seem OK for sand dunes where you hardly ever see a rock and work great with sand paddle tires but our experiance here at Sandtown Ranch where we see lots of Polaris machines including RZR's and XP900's is that for "trail" riding a set of 14" wheels is often a great investment.

So it's a toss up. Depends on how it's broke, but IF it was broken like that (puncture to inside surface from a rock that got wedged by the caliper) then you stand a chance if you have a dealer who's good at arguing with Polaris.


If they wont replace it consider putting a set of ITP 14" wheels on it, the 14" seem to all but solve the caliper-wedge problem with rocks and ITP has a lifetime warranty on all of their wheels. If you break an ITP wheel during the course of any kind of normal riding activities (ie. your not running a race rig in the Baja 1000) and you can take it to any dealer that sells ITP wheels and they will replace it virtually no questions asked.

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Wheels are a double edge sword. 14's are good for clearance on the brakes but 14's also stand more of a risk of pinching the tire and cutting it. 12" wheels may catch a rock uv between the brake and wheel but run less of a risk of pinching the side wall. I prefer the 12's for the ride, performance, and appearance.

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Wheels are a double edge sword. 14's are good for clearance on the brakes but 14's also stand more of a risk of pinching the tire and cutting it. 12" wheels may catch a rock uv between the brake and wheel but run less of a risk of pinching the side wall. I prefer the 12's for the ride, performance, and appearance.

It may depend on where or how you ride, Here in the Ozarks I've lots seen more 12" tires with sidewall cuts and pinches than 14" tires, especially the cuts part, sliced by sharp-edged rocks. But some of our technical trails are almost like rock-crawling at times. The 12" wheels tend to get less abuse on the painted wheel lips than the 14" wheel lips, not that I have ever seen either one one fail or break from that, the 14" just tend to get the black paint scuffed off of them a bit more than the 12" wheels do, but then the 12" tires themselves seem to be taking all the abuse and end up with lots of cuts from sharp rocks that the 14" tires don't seem to get.

The 14" wheels ride better, at least to me they do on the XP900's. The difference when I went from 12" to 14" tires was like night and day in the handling, like going from a mushy 1980's era Buick sedan to a modern Jaguar from a handling sandpoint. But then I am a former tactical driving specialist for the Army and I'm used to driving higher end cars that have great handling albeit a little stiffer. The ride was a little smoother in a straight line with the 12's but the cornering, stability, and handling are now sooo much better to me with the 14's.

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Wheels are a double edge sword. 14's are good for clearance on the brakes but 14's also stand more of a risk of pinching the tire and cutting it. 12" wheels may catch a rock uv between the brake and wheel but run less of a risk of pinching the side wall. I prefer the 12's for the ride, performance, and appearance.

It may depend on where or how you ride, Here in the Ozarks I've lots seen more 12" tires with sidewall cuts and pinches than 14" tires, especially the cuts part, sliced by sharp-edged rocks. But some of our technical trails are almost like rock-crawling at times. The 12" wheels tend to get less abuse on the painted wheel lips than the 14" wheel lips, not that I have ever seen either one one fail or break from that, the 14" just tend to get the black paint scuffed off of them a bit more than the 12" wheels do, but then the 12" tires themselves seem to be taking all the abuse and end up with lots of cuts from sharp rocks that the 14" tires don't seem to get.

The 14" wheels ride better, at least to me they do on the XP900's. The difference when I went from 12" to 14" tires was like night and day in the handling, like going from a mushy 1980's era Buick sedan to a modern Jaguar from a handling sandpoint. But then I am a former tactical driving specialist for the Army and I'm used to driving higher end cars that have great handling albeit a little stiffer. The ride was a little smoother in a straight line with the 12's but the cornering, stability, and handling are now sooo much better to me with the 14's.
Can you explain to me why the 12's cut more tires than a 14?

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can anyone tell if the stock rims are covered under warranty? broke a front rim pretty good
If it was a mfg defect YES... If you hit something NO...
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Can you explain to me why the 12's cut more tires than a 14?

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I think it happens because they they have more sidewall exposed and many 12" tires if you look at their profile they seem to "bulge out" more than thair 14" counterparts. The same reason the 14" wheels get their paint scratched more, they don't have that bulged out sidewall to protect them as much.

I think that's also why we see 12" tires "pinched" more than 14" tires when natural logic would make you think the opposite would happen, but that bulged out part makes them a little more vunerable to getting pinched, especially if the pressure isn't correct. We actually very rearely see a tire "pinched" around here in either size, we mainly see cuts from sharp rocks and pokes from sharp stobs which almost always seems to to happen more to the 12" just because they have more of that bulged out sidewall exposed to brush against those things.

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Re: stock rims, covered under warranty????

To compare apples to apples with the sidewall bulge you also have to consider the width of the wheel versus tire width.. When comparing 12 versus 14..
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To compare apples to apples with the sidewall bulge you also have to consider the width of the wheel versus tire width.. When comparing 12 versus 14..

Yep, I've noticed that the rare times when we do see 14" tires pinched and many of the times we see them cut, they almost always look like they are on a rim that is too narrow for them making them bulge out closer to the tread and have a sunk-in look closer to the rim. That seems to almost be asking for a cut or pinch no matter which size you have.

We was standing trailside with a guy one night who had a rock gash in his sidewall and took 12 plugs to plug it just enough to make it back to camp and even then took two stops to air it back up again and was flat again just as we got to camp. Someone ask him why he got tires that wide for his stock narrower rims and he said the bulged sidewalls protect the rim from getting scratched. Everyone just laughed and said, ummm... yep... those rims do look mighty nice sittin there with that flat on 'em... not hardly a scratch on them rims

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Re: stock rims, covered under warranty????

With my warrenty experiance...............no way
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