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Old April 4th, 2013, 11:19 PM
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Re: HO kit install...

Ya ive been trying to research. The manager of parts said they contacted polaris corp. And they back the kit. That may have just been for the 6mth and not extended. Maybe ill just try to sell the kit and leave it stock.
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Old April 4th, 2013, 11:23 PM
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Re: HO kit install...

Yeah it's a hard call. I was really bummed. Mine was paid for and ordered. I kept getting inconsistent answers from the dealers I had checked with. Made me very leery of the whole thing so I started making calls to the extended warranty repair companies.

If you decide to keep the kit, just try to push them to give you something in writing stating that they WILL cover the motor if something happens.

Like I said, I was really bummed. I had been looking forward to this kit for quite awhile.
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Old April 4th, 2013, 11:30 PM
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I have western extended warranty, i wonder if the polaris extemded will cover... Ya he said would give me something in writing... Ill find out more tomorrow. Thanks...
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Old April 5th, 2013, 07:13 AM
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Re: HO kit install...

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The argument was that it should be covered because although it is an after the fact of purchase (not the way the unit came out of the crate) it was still a Polaris part and would be installed by Polaris dealers, etc. She then said that the final decision was made to NOT cover the H.O. as an add on because they have had numerous recent claims (24 to date) of Jagged X engine failure or Rzr's upgraded to Jagged X specs with the H.O. kit. The second of these two being the upgrade to the Rzr XP were incurring more failures than the Jagged X but still several claims. She didn't brake it down to exact numbers as which one had the most problems, but stated that far more of the XP engines that had been upgraded to the H.O. kit were failing.
You know I was thinking about this lastnight for what ever reason.. Westen extended warranty company is who gave you the 24 failures to date number not polaris correct? The jagged X was released what jan 1st? If thats the case wouldn't all 24 be XP4s that had the kit installed? Jagged X has only been out what 3-4 months? Heck some who bought them are still waiting for them to come in. So that would mean Every Jagged out there is still under the 6 month factory warranty and westen wouldn't be getting called for those failures. I know it doesn't really matter. Was just pointing it out since they wouldn't tell you how many failures where XP4s wit the kits vs Jaggeds.. Wouldn't they all have to be converted XP4s? If thats the case kind of makes you wonder if it was the instalation or the kit its self. I guess you would need to know the failure numbers of jagged from polaris to figure that though

Doesn't really matter. Just something I'd thought I'd point out.. Doesn't change the fact the kit won't let you keep your extended so might as well go with alba and get more of a gain for the money..
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Old April 5th, 2013, 08:06 AM
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Re: HO kit install...

We need to know where does the engine failure on Jagged X and why! Probably the cam? Do not forget the breaking-in period on a new machine or modified engine!
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Re: HO kit install...

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We need to know where does the engine failure on Jagged X and why! Probably the cam? Do not forget the breaking-in period on a new machine or modified engine!
Or possibly the warranty person had no idea what they were talking about. The fact that we have quite a few X owners on here I would think we would have a couple of failures reported?
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Re: HO kit install...

It's funny you mention this because it had already occurred to me that the timelines didn't quite align with the release of the Jagged X. Plus, there are a whole lot of those H.O. kits that haven't even hit the dealers stock yet. Hell, I was still waiting on mine and they said mid April.

This kind of parallels with what I had said to the other member. You go to 3 dealers and get 3 different answers to you questions. It seems, at least regarding the H.O. kit, this whole warranty coverage is filled with subterfuge, confusion and several people talking out of their butts, who don't really know the answer.

Nothing worse than thinking all is well and the parts guy tells you what you need to hear to complete the sale. Problem is, if he/she was incorrect who's gonna pay the bill when/if that engine takes a dump? Most people don't have 3-4 grand readily available to exact a repair like that.

I just want straight-up honest answers. If they tell me it's covered under the extended, then it damn well better be. If they say nope, no coverage, I'm fine with that too, just tell me the truth.

With this situation nobody really knew so they just assumed. I just didn't want our members spending the 1500 on the parts and installation, then have a serious issue if something happened later on. Then the dealer informs them that the so called warranty isn't worth the ink it's written with.


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Quote: Originally Posted by shooters View Post

The argument was that it should be covered because although it is an after the fact of purchase (not the way the unit came out of the crate) it was still a Polaris part and would be installed by Polaris dealers, etc. She then said that the final decision was made to NOT cover the H.O. as an add on because they have had numerous recent claims (24 to date) of Jagged X engine failure or Rzr's upgraded to Jagged X specs with the H.O. kit. The second of these two being the upgrade to the Rzr XP were incurring more failures than the Jagged X but still several claims. She didn't brake it down to exact numbers as which one had the most problems, but stated that far more of the XP engines that had been upgraded to the H.O. kit were failing.
You know I was thinking about this lastnight for what ever reason.. Westen extended warranty company is who gave you the 24 failures to date number not polaris correct? The jagged X was released what jan 1st? If thats the case wouldn't all 24 be XP4s that had the kit installed? Jagged X has only been out what 3-4 months? Heck some who bought them are still waiting for them to come in. So that would mean Every Jagged out there is still under the 6 month factory warranty and westen wouldn't be getting called for those failures. I know it doesn't really matter. Was just pointing it out since they wouldn't tell you how many failures where XP4s wit the kits vs Jaggeds.. Wouldn't they all have to be converted XP4s? If thats the case kind of makes you wonder if it was the instalation or the kit its self. I guess you would need to know the failure numbers of jagged from polaris to figure that though

Doesn't really matter. Just something I'd thought I'd point out.. Doesn't change the fact the kit won't let you keep your extended so might as well go with alba and get more of a gain for the money..
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Re: HO kit install...

Quote: Originally Posted by shooters View Post
It's funny you mention this because it had already occurred to me that the timelines didn't quite align with the release of the Jagged X. Plus, there are a whole lot of those H.O. kits that haven't even hit the dealers stock yet. Hell, I was still waiting on mine and they said mid April.

This kind of parallels with what I had said to the other member. You go to 3 dealers and get 3 different answers to you questions. It seems, at least regarding the H.O. kit, this whole warranty coverage is filled with subterfuge, confusion and several people talking out of their butts, who don't really know the answer.

Nothing worse than thinking all is well and the parts guy tells you what you need to hear to complete the sale. Problem is, if he/she was incorrect who's gonna pay the bill when/if that engine takes a dump? Most people don't have 3-4 grand readily available to exact a repair like that.

I just want straight-up honest answers. If they tell me it's covered under the extended, then it damn well better be. If they say nope, no coverage, I'm fine with that too, just tell me the truth.

With this situation nobody really knew so they just assumed. I just didn't want our members spending the 1500 on the parts and installation, then have a serious issue if something happened later on. Then the dealer informs them that the so called warranty isn't worth the ink it's written with.


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Quote: Originally Posted by shooters View Post

The argument was that it should be covered because although it is an after the fact of purchase (not the way the unit came out of the crate) it was still a Polaris part and would be installed by Polaris dealers, etc. She then said that the final decision was made to NOT cover the H.O. as an add on because they have had numerous recent claims (24 to date) of Jagged X engine failure or Rzr's upgraded to Jagged X specs with the H.O. kit. The second of these two being the upgrade to the Rzr XP were incurring more failures than the Jagged X but still several claims. She didn't brake it down to exact numbers as which one had the most problems, but stated that far more of the XP engines that had been upgraded to the H.O. kit were failing.
You know I was thinking about this lastnight for what ever reason.. Westen extended warranty company is who gave you the 24 failures to date number not polaris correct? The jagged X was released what jan 1st? If thats the case wouldn't all 24 be XP4s that had the kit installed? Jagged X has only been out what 3-4 months? Heck some who bought them are still waiting for them to come in. So that would mean Every Jagged out there is still under the 6 month factory warranty and westen wouldn't be getting called for those failures. I know it doesn't really matter. Was just pointing it out since they wouldn't tell you how many failures where XP4s wit the kits vs Jaggeds.. Wouldn't they all have to be converted XP4s? If thats the case kind of makes you wonder if it was the instalation or the kit its self. I guess you would need to know the failure numbers of jagged from polaris to figure that though

Doesn't really matter. Just something I'd thought I'd point out.. Doesn't change the fact the kit won't let you keep your extended so might as well go with alba and get more of a gain for the money..
If The HO kit is installed by a Polaris Dealership, it is a pure polaris accessory and will be covered under warranty both factory and Polaristar.

However, if you do the install yourself, or the service center dealership does not have a clue how to properly submit and fight warranty claims with assurant, there could be some lapses in coverage.
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Re: HO kit install...

Just got off the phone with western, she said they now offer a clause to cover the vehicle, but will not cover any damage directly resulting from the kit. Looks like im going with polaris extented warranty.
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My HO kit will be installed on Monday and did not stress me even if my guarantee is over.
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Re: HO kit install...

Seems like pretty good bang for the buck to me, HO kit dyno results have shown an 8 hp increase at the wheels, approx 12 hp at the crank, apprx 100 crank hp all said and done.

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If you do not want to pay time for nothing, remove the all bed, bench passenger and heat shield rzr before installation at the dealer !
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dogg View Post
If you do not want to pay time for nothing, remove the all bed, bench passenger and heat shield rzr before installation at the dealer !
and pressure wash the bejeevies out of it on the way there and maybe take time to vacuum the mud and sand that collects down in the the spark plugs.

see how long that takes you and you are paying yourself $80 an hour.

Also stop at the store and get a fresh Entenmann's for the guys.
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Re: HO kit install...

im sure they will find a way out of covering it ..after all its a performance kit most dont get covered heck theirs a bulletin out on the jagged saying if you put rear seats in it voids it and the bead locks are not covered also
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heck theirs a bulletin out on the jagged saying if you put rear seats in it voids it and the bead locks are not covered also
It most certainly does NOT say that. No need to spread the FUD.


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