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post #1 of 26 Old March 17th, 2017, 04:43 PM Thread Starter
 
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Home fabbed sway bar????

Ok, guys, new to the forum. If you read my intro, I have a 2010 RZR S with 10,000 miles on it. I said "trouble free"; but things DO wear out and break.
Well, around 8000 miles, my sway bar broke, right in the bend. I have tried welding it, but not with much success. It has worn to where it is too thin.
So,with all that being said.......has anyone taken some 1 inch by 3/32 or 1/8 wall tubing and fabbed their own, by just using a tubing bender and forming it up??

I have just been running without it for the last 1000 miles or so, which is OK; but the fact that I don't have one just bugs me!!! My OCD kicks in once in a while!!!!
Thanks in advance for any response!!

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Re: Home fabbed swat bar???????

Can't. It's spring steel.

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I do believe you need more then a bent piece of pipe I'm sure it's a special treated steel so it will spring back into shape
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Can't. It's spring steel.
This is correct.

Any reason why not to just go source a used one?id have done that before even attempting to weld it.
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Can't. It's spring steel.
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Any reason why not to just go source a used one?id have done that before even attempting to weld it.
Yup!!!!! As stated.......it just bugs me that I can't fix or make one!! That is all.
When trying to weld my broken one, it welded like mild steel; but as stated, was too thin to have any strength. And I will probably try fabbing one, just to see what happens!! If it works, I will let everyone know how it turns out!!
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Can't. It's spring steel.
This is correct.

Any reason why not to just go source a used one?id have done that before even attempting to weld it.
Yup!!!!! As stated.......it just bugs me that I can't fix or make one!! That is all.
When trying to weld my broken one, it welded like mild steel; but as stated, was too thin to have any strength. And I will probably try fabbing one, just to see what happens!! If it works, I will let everyone know how it turns out!!
Well cant blame ya there but things are what they are.Even if you found the sprung steel to do it the welding would probably weaken or take the spring from the steel.

Id say if you wanted to re-invent the wheel so to speak here theres plenty of other areas that could use some more intelligence and thought added to these things for much needed improvements.
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Well, boyz n gurlz........done deal!!angel

Just FYI......I pulled the old sway bar out and did a couple tests on it.
1. Took a center punch and hammer, and gave it a good rap on an un-damaged place of the old sway bar......it left a divot in it like it would in mild steel.
2. Took a drill and tried drilling where the divot was.....it drilled like mild steel.
3. Touched the old sway bar to a grinder, and it threw a spark pattern like mild steel
Good to go!!
When I was in town, I stopped at a steel warehouse and picked up a 5 foot piece of 1 inch tubing/ 1/8" wall thickness. I put it in the tubing/pipe bender with the correct die....bend, bend, to proper length. Cut the ends to proper length, flattened the ends, drilled holes in the proper place and bolted it in!!!!
$7.64 total price and had about 15" of tubing left over!!! Quite simple, actually!!
I guess I learned the old oilfield way.......if ya CAN'T do it, ya CAN'T stay!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for all the great information!!
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Good Job!! This is a common problem, they all break! My RzR broke one and my step-dad has a Ranger and it broke in the same spot.

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Regardless, it was still spring steel. Your new one won't operate, or last, like the original one made of spring steel.
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Regardless, it was still spring steel. Your new one won't operate, or last, like the original one made of spring steel.
Read post #7! This old fart does know how to test various types of steel, etc.
If it walks like a duck...........
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I agree with Wanna Ride...mild steel is NOT spring steel. Just cuz' you can center punch it and drill it does not mean anything when it comes to it's performance. I admire your self-sufficiency and desire to save a few bucks, but time will tell.

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I agree with Wanna Ride...mild steel is NOT spring steel. Just cuz' you can center punch it and drill it does not mean anything when it comes to it's performance. I admire your self-sufficiency and desire to save a few bucks, but time will tell.

So called "spring" steel is made from medium to high carbon steels. Medium to high carbon steels will throw a different spark pattern than mild steels when held to a grinder.
Medium to high carbon steels will "chip" rather than machine smoothly like mild steels.....i.e. When trying to drill them with a drill bit or when trying to machine them in a lathe.
Medium to higb carbon steels will likely break the end off of the center punch when trying to punch them.

Thanks! School's over.
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I agree with Wanna Ride...mild steel is NOT spring steel. Just cuz' you can center punch it and drill it does not mean anything when it comes to it's performance. I admire your self-sufficiency and desire to save a few bucks, but time will tell.

So called "spring" steel is made from medium to high carbon steels. Medium to high carbon steels will throw a different spark pattern than mild steels when held to a grinder.
Medium to high carbon steels will "chip" rather than machine smoothly like mild steels.....i.e. When trying to drill them with a drill bit or when trying to machine them in a lathe.
Medium to higb carbon steels will likely break the end off of the center punch when trying to punch them.

Thanks! School's over.
Okay...good luck, "teacher"

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Important to note is the sway bar straight piece provides frame support. Remove it and you could end up with a cracked frame like FJK several years back.
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I agree with Wanna Ride...mild steel is NOT spring steel. Just cuz' you can center punch it and drill it does not mean anything when it comes to it's performance. I admire your self-sufficiency and desire to save a few bucks, but time will tell.

So called "spring" steel is made from medium to high carbon steels. Medium to high carbon steels will throw a different spark pattern than mild steels when held to a grinder.
Medium to high carbon steels will "chip" rather than machine smoothly like mild steels.....i.e. When trying to drill them with a drill bit or when trying to machine them in a lathe.
Medium to higb carbon steels will likely break the end off of the center punch when trying to punch them.

Thanks! School's over.
Oh good, someone who has a little knowledge on steel and machining. No one else here has ever worked in that industry! And when you have a moment, google Kruger-Dunning effect. Have a great day, Richard and you keep on welding up those custom "swat" bars.
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