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post #1 of 19 Old March 14th, 2010, 09:21 PM Thread Starter
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I have took the shocks off the rzr today to prep for my new springs. The rzr is on jack stands with the tires off. After I got the shocks off I stuck a block of wood under each set of A-Arms just to take pressure off the axles from wanting to pull away from the differential. Probably not needed but it makes me feel better. When I got to the back of the rzr I pulled up on the drivers side and stuck the block under it. I walked around to the passenger side and noticed it was already up. I then realized, duh..the sway bar pulled it up. I began wondering how the sway bar affects rear suspension travel independently. With as much weight as there is on the rear end, does the rear end still articulate independently for the most part? It seems to me in choppy/tracked dunes or trails hitting holes and stuff like that the rear suspension would perform better with no rear sway bar. Not sure how it would act through whoops or if it would help any. Has anyone tried disconnecting it and riding the same terrain with and without? Any other thoughts on this?
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If the new springs you are reffering to are the progressives from MakinTrax Suspension, I can tell you to ditch the sway bar, you will not be sorry. Much improved ride and handling.

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If the new springs you are reffering to are the progressives from MakinTrax Suspension, I can tell you to ditch the sway bar, you will not be sorry. Much improved ride and handling.
X 2... Steve recommends removing the sway bar...
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Thanks for the info guys. I will check with Steve and see if he will post in here when and why the sway bar should be removed.
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Thanks for the info guys. I will check with Steve and see if he will post in here when and why the sway bar should be removed.
He already has to several people, including me. There are so many different threads about these springs it may be hard to find with the search function. I can tell you that with these springs my RZR is MUCH more stable than without them, and that is the main reason that you can remove the swaybar, especially in your case being 10 inches wider with the S model.
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Ya I have searched and read a bunch about the springs, part of the reason I bought them. I don't remember seeing any direct mention of sway bars. Don't take it as me not believing what you are telling me. I just figured if it was posted directly from Steve it may help the next guy when researching the springs and sway bar.
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Ya I have searched and read a bunch about the springs, part of the reason I bought them. I don't remember seeing any direct mention of sway bars. Don't take it as me not believing what you are telling me. I just figured if it was posted directly from Steve it may help the next guy when researching the springs and sway bar.


read post 15.. http://www.rzrforums.net/suspension/...e-springs.html
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There it is. Thanks Mike.
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Re: Rear sway bar

All the discussion been about removing the rear sway bar, but no one ever replied about what the result was after removing the sway bar. I'm interested in what the results are after removing the rear sway bar on the Rzr S with stock suspension. I've always removed the sway bars on my offroad Cherokee when heading to the mountains, but, I do not navigate my Rzr S like i do my Cherokee. my Rzr S climbs, but it also hits trails on the same ride like a rally car. Any inout as to results on different terrain?
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I don't run the rear sway bar or front. Also on my rhino its removed. Its easy to disconnect and reconnect so try it without for a day and see if you like it.

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I have took the shocks off the rzr today to prep for my new springs. The rzr is on jack stands with the tires off. After I got the shocks off I stuck a block of wood under each set of A-Arms just to take pressure off the axles from wanting to pull away from the differential. Probably not needed but it makes me feel better. When I got to the back of the rzr I pulled up on the drivers side and stuck the block under it. I walked around to the passenger side and noticed it was already up. I then realized, duh..the sway bar pulled it up. I began wondering how the sway bar affects rear suspension travel independently. With as much weight as there is on the rear end, does the rear end still articulate independently for the most part? It seems to me in choppy/tracked dunes or trails hitting holes and stuff like that the rear suspension would perform better with no rear sway bar. Not sure how it would act through whoops or if it would help any. Has anyone tried disconnecting it and riding the same terrain with and without? Any other thoughts on this?
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All the discussion been about removing the rear sway bar, but no one ever replied about what the result was after removing the sway bar. I'm interested in what the results are after removing the rear sway bar on the Rzr S with stock suspension. I've always removed the sway bars on my offroad Cherokee when heading to the mountains, but, I do not navigate my Rzr S like i do my Cherokee. my Rzr S climbs, but it also hits trails on the same ride like a rally car. Any inout as to results on different terrain?
The result is this, it frees the rear suspension to work independently not locked together. That allows better weight transfer to the outside rear in corners that equates to traction. Better overall control in cornering, a smoother ride in choppy cross grain, an improved ride quality because it take the side to side slapping out and for crawling better articulation. Mind you I wouldn't remove it with the stock springs unless you like a lot of body roll and at speed the car wahlers around like a big boat on the chimes. IMHO
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Re: Rear sway bar

Gotta jump in... I had the same concerns that some of you others had about stability... I did what Steve told me and took the sway bar loose just to try it out... That was about 5 weeks ago at North Glamis KOA. Just a few hours ago I took off the back of the RZR-S to put some ATR Chassis bones and I completely removed the sway bar not just disconnected it. It rides really nice and I have been doing some trail riding that included some fast dirt trials where handling was sooo nice and then some technical wheelin through ruts and over rocks off camber trackin... I loved it... No need for the sway bar with the progressive springs... And even more, far better without the sway bar.

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Re: Rear sway bar

My Rzr S has DWT Beadlocks with about 2" offset. Therefore the track is wider.
What spring do you guys recommend for this in order to remove the rear sway bar? The Rzr S does not have a front sway bar.

I am all about greater articulation on the rocks, but I do not want to give up high speed stability on the trails or the gravel/dirt fire roads.
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