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Old April 6th, 2013, 07:07 AM
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Odes Mid Size Review

About a month or so ago, I bought a new leftover Odes Mid Size from Kings in Texas. Was shipped crated and they dropped it off into my garage. $2400.

I had to install, the wheels, roll cage, seats, battery, front & rear plastic, and a few odds and ends small pieces. No directions for assembly, but if your fairly mechanical, not a big deal.

I have always ridden Honda bikes, and am now riding ktm bikes, both a standard of quality in assembly/hardware. I know the odes is made in china, and for the most part things went together well, had a few bolts that stripped out without overtorquing (couple of six mm and one lug bolt.) Overall quality was ok. One thing that was goofy was the drivers seat is supposed to be adjustable, but the way they are manufactured when you install it, it is at its max point forward and the seat is rubbing the back of the interior, so there was no adjustment, I ended up making brackets so that it was movable.

Another thing I noticed. WHen I looked at a used polaris, I could barely get into it myself to try out. This was a single a-arm front. I ordered the "Mid-Sized" prowler. I can easily get into and out of it as the interior is 4" longer. This model also has the double a-arms. I am thinking the mini version (polaris) is the single a-arm.

I also had some banshee front shocks on hand that I had intended to mount on the rear, but they are a couple inches shorter than the stock shocks.

In stock condition it would only hit 10mph. I then installed a 1.5" PVC air snorkel with uni pod filter and backed off the throttle stop. It would go just past 10 mph and then fall on its face. I then rejetted and went from a 34 pilot to a 38 pilot and a 107 main to a 140 main. That changed everything, yesterday on the first trail ride I was clocking it at 24 mph in my buddies full size rzr. There is a speedometer in the odes, but I dont think it is accurate, says going over 30 when topped out.

When researching jetting, I noticed the carbs shown in pics where much different/simpler looking than the one on mine. Also, the carb had tamperproof bolts holding the bowl on, so I had to get creative to remove the bolts and replace them with standard head bolts.

This one is a base model with stock shocks and stock wheels, it creates a issue when loading it on my trailer, I have a landscaping trailer with about a 4' ramp gate, that I cannot use because it drags bottom, I had to use my longer planks to get it on.

For the trails we ride on, the suspension and tires will do fine for now until my kids ride more with me (in trails) if they do ride more with me, I will get concerned about better/taller shocks and tires for ground clearance.

At one time I had planned to go with the Pitster xl model which had the bigger tires and better suspension for $3800, but we dont have anywhere to ride around the house and my kids dont go riding that much with me so it was hard to justify the money. The base pister was $3300 which is the same price a yamaha/odes dealer was selling the base odes for which was 2 hours from my home, then I found out I could get the same model for $2400 shipped to my door. I like to work on bikes and quads, so assembly was no big deal to me, my last KTM was also purchased in the crate. I would have liked to get the larger/fancier wheels and suspension, but couldnt justify the added $1400.

Overall, at this point I am pretty happy with it. if things change I will post.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 10:40 AM
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Odes Mid Size Review

Thanks for the detailed write up. I'm still taking my time deciding between the various options for kids.

Surprised you said it only did 10 stock. Not good. But that was a good price, and sounds like you have the skills to work on it. I'm not good at diagnosing problems, only competent at routine maintenance.

Anyway, question. You said you got the "mid" odes. What is diff between the mid and the mini, and which is the same as the pitster or polaris?

The web sites I've found just say 7" more legroom in the mid, but doesn't say how. Really a longer frame than the polaris?

Thanks
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Old April 9th, 2013, 01:05 PM
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If you buy the "mini" odes, I beleive that is the same model as the polaris. I believe the mini's have single a-arm front suspension. I test drove a used polaris and could barely get into it.

I beleive the "mid" size is the same as the pitster. It is longer and I can get into it quite easily. I think it is truly just a stretched mini. The dif of the mini and mid were $100 when I bought mine.

I havent had it side by side with a mini for direct comparisons.

If I would have not been familiar with jetting from working on quads and bikes, I would not have been happy with the stock 10mph speed. But I know my way around bikes and quads pretty well and do all my own work, so along with a little research on this site, it wasnt too bad.
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Thanks. Interesting because I think the pitster and polaris have same spec for length. If anyone knows for sure if the pitster is bigger like the odes mid, or smaller like the polaris, please chime in. Thx
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Re: Odes Mid Size Review

If I get a chance, I will measure the length tonight.
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Re: Odes Mid Size Review

Wow.....so the clones are slightly bigger than the rzr 170?
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Wow.....so the clones are slightly bigger than the rzr 170?
My mid-size seems to be. I think the mini's are the same size as the polaris.
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Re: Odes Mid Size Review

Post a pic of yer buggy if you get time!
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Hard to tell, but the last picture definitely makes it look longer than the polaris 170.

Thx for sharing. I sat in a polaris 170, and it is tight, but seemed ok for riding with a kid for a little while. Didn't try with a helmet though.

From what I have read, I will likely avoid the Odes and stick with pitster or used 170. Likely wait until after summer or early next year. My better half is already being very patient with how much money is flying out the window on my RZR
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Re: Odes Mid Size Review

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In stock condition it would only hit 10mph. I then installed a 1.5" PVC air snorkel with uni pod filter and backed off the throttle stop. It would go just past 10 mph and then fall on its face. I then rejetted and went from a 34 pilot to a 38 pilot and a 107 main to a 140 main. That changed everything, yesterday on the first trail ride I was clocking it at 24 mph in my buddies full size rzr. There is a speedometer in the odes, but I dont think it is accurate, says going over 30 when topped out.
Just curious if you adjusted the governor bolt on the firewall?
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In stock condition it would only hit 10mph. I then installed a 1.5" PVC air snorkel with uni pod filter and backed off the throttle stop. It would go just past 10 mph and then fall on its face. I then rejetted and went from a 34 pilot to a 38 pilot and a 107 main to a 140 main. That changed everything, yesterday on the first trail ride I was clocking it at 24 mph in my buddies full size rzr. There is a speedometer in the odes, but I dont think it is accurate, says going over 30 when topped out.
Just curious if you adjusted the governor bolt on the firewall?
I did concurrently with the air filter snorkel, but the jetting was too lean, that is when I upped the main and pilot which made all the difference.
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Re: Odes Mid Size Review

Just checking for updates on your mid you purchased a couple months back, i think I am gonna buy a mid as soon as they are back in stock
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Re: Odes Mid Size Review

nothing new to report. It will only get used 3-4 times a year likely.
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Re: Odes Mid Size Review

Really, ours will probably get used 3-4 times a week, we had a peg perego 12v gator, he called it his fast truck, because it was way faster than the 6 v power wheels before it. If it had an hour meter on it probably would have had about 1000 hours on it. He used to drive it to the park and back, about a mile round trip, had 3 batteries for it so it was always ready to go, just sold it after almost 3 years because I was afraid his heavy little body was gonna burn out the electric drive motors, same reason we sold the 49 cc atv, because he burnt up 3 clutches in it in a matter of 2 weeks
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