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Old September 16th, 2011, 07:39 PM
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My homemade toyhauler

Howdy everyone. Been lurking on the site for a while reading threads here and there trying to get educated on RZRs. I do not own one yet, but am planning on buying one probably in about a month. I've been riding ATVs for years and have got the RZR bug and wanting to get my wife and my 4.5 year old girl out into camping.

So about 2 months ago I started looking at toy haulers and decided they were too much money. I enjoy fabricating stuff so I thought I'd just make my own. I like the idea of having a flatbed trailer in front and a popup camper in back. I wanted to make it big enough to carry a RZR and an ATV up front.

I found a 28' trailer frame off a travel trailer with dual brake axles and got it for $700. Steel, axles, and brakes would have been double this price if I would have built it myself.



Then I found a 2004 Viking popup camper, in excellent shape. Paid $4000 for this.



Got it home and did a spring over axle on the trailer which game me some ground clearance.



The next step was to get the popup on the trailer. I used a little redneck engineering here along w/ my other toy, a 1970 FJ40 that I restored, to winch it up onto the trailer. Worked like a champ!





I then removed the alxe off and the tongue of the popup and slowly lowered it down on the trailer.




Welded in a bunch of crossmembers and supports and the decked the front which measures about 102" wide by 120" long. I also left a small, recessed area in the back (about 3' deep) for extra stuff, coolers, propane, ect.




Wired it up and got it painted last weekend. Looks like a brand new trailer.






I also installed some e-tracks to have a good range of tie down positions.


I bought new wheels and tires for it last week and just need to get them mounted. I plan on buying a 4'x8' sheet of aluminum diamond plate and facing the sides of the camper which will delete the wheel well and balance the look out. Need to finish my wiring and get my brakes wired up as well as the battery wired up. Also need to plumb my propane bottles which will reside on the back of the trailer.

Now I just to finish this so I can go and buy a RZR. Trying to decide on either a 2011 or 2010 RZR S.

I really enjoy the site and look forward to making some camping and RZR trips!

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Old September 16th, 2011, 08:23 PM
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really nice. once you unload the toys flat area will make a really great deck as long as you have enough room. that is the way our scorpion s1 is and we love having the deck. it is nice to be up off the ground while you are grilling/drinking beer

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Old September 16th, 2011, 08:50 PM
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Interesting to see what a guy can do when he has the skills...good job!
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Old September 16th, 2011, 09:34 PM
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Re: My homemade toyhauler

I have the Scorpion S1 as well! I love that toyhauler!
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Old September 16th, 2011, 10:30 PM
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Re: My homemade toyhauler

Great job Nick You gonna use a weight distribution hitch? Gonna have some knarly tongue weight with an 1100lb RZR up front.
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Re: My homemade toyhauler

nice work!

If I can add something
for what its worth, the axels that you are using. They don't last long, just the components in general. As it was put to me "they are designed to deliver a house...once" thus the life span isn't what they could
....but I'm guessing that you know that!!!


as for your RZR, the 2010 has the better shocks

Good job, now get it loaded with fun stuff!!!
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Re: My homemade toyhauler

Quote: Originally Posted by Rzrluvr View Post
Great job Nick You gonna use a weight distribution hitch? Gonna have some knarly tongue weight with an 1100lb RZR up front.
I was going to say the same thing.

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nice work!

If I can add something
for what its worth, the axels that you are using. They don't last long, just the components in general. As it was put to me "they are designed to deliver a house...once" thus the life span isn't what they could
....but I'm guessing that you know that!!!


as for your RZR, the 2010 has the better shocks

Good job, now get it loaded with fun stuff!!!
yeah those axles are once or twice and let them sit type of axles. He might get a year or 2 out of them if he travels light and services them.


Kick ass work though for sure. Only thing I would have done differently is put the "toy" over the axles instead of ahead of the axles.
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Re: My homemade toyhauler

The trailer looks great !! Nice work... Here's my 2 cents worth... i have a 22' flat trailer. Currently I haul 2 RZR's and 2 quads on it.. The tonge is heavy, but not that bad. I don't have any special hitch... 2ndly.. I run 2 "house trailer axles.. I live in Ohio and have tacken it to Alabama twice, southern Kentucy three times, Silver lake sand dunes once, Buffalo New York,Myrtle Beach, Central Indiana 4 times etc.. as well several dozen local rides 1 to 3 hrs away..and I am running the same bearings that were in it when I built the trailer a few years ago.. keep 'em greased and run it... jmho...
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Re: My homemade toyhauler

Quote: Originally Posted by SomeGuyFromOlympia View Post
nice work!

If I can add something
for what its worth, the axels that you are using. They don't last long, just the components in general. As it was put to me "they are designed to deliver a house...once" thus the life span isn't what they could
....but I'm guessing that you know that!!!


as for your RZR, the 2010 has the better shocks

Good job, now get it loaded with fun stuff!!!
First off, Awesome Job you have did, I like it allot! Looks like you and yours will be having some good times with that Rig!!

His post qouted Travel Trailer Axles, might you be thinking Trailer House Axles? The Travel Trailer ones will last great, they were designed to go up and down the road.

I would have to agree, the Pop Up should go up front as far as you can get it and stack the Machines over the axels and on back.
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Re: My homemade toyhauler

my input on the tongue weight. tongue weight on my s1 is right at 1000lbs. i can reduce that just a tad if i put the rzr in facing forwards (but i usually haul it facing backwards). you will want a weight distro hitch with that kind of tongue weight and depending on your vehicle you may still get some sag. i also run air bags to reduce any porpoising.
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Re: My homemade toyhauler

nice job by all,
i,ll leave the design flaws to others,
consider these examples proto type,
they can and i know will surly be improved,
the concept is really cool
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Re: My homemade toyhauler

Quote: Originally Posted by Kandgo View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by SomeGuyFromOlympia View Post
nice work!

If I can add something
for what its worth, the axels that you are using. They don't last long, just the components in general. As it was put to me "they are designed to deliver a house...once" thus the life span isn't what they could
....but I'm guessing that you know that!!!


as for your RZR, the 2010 has the better shocks

Good job, now get it loaded with fun stuff!!!
First off, Awesome Job you have did, I like it allot! Looks like you and yours will be having some good times with that Rig!!

His post qouted Travel Trailer Axles, might you be thinking Trailer House Axles? The Travel Trailer ones will last great, they were designed to go up and down the road.

I would have to agree, the Pop Up should go up front as far as you can get it and stack the Machines over the axels and on back.
Yes, the are travel trailer axles not trailer house axles, these are made for running up and down the highway.

When I set the location of the pop, I had the tongue on a scale. My tongue weight will be somewhere around 900 lbs w/ a razor. I didn't want to put the camper on the front because I will not always be hauling a RZR or ATV w/ me and then the tonque weight would be too much. The popup by itself weighs around 2000 and is positioned over the axles, slightly to the rear. If when I get a rzr loaded and the TW is too much, I can move my axles relatively easily towards the front to increase the weight in the back, therefore reducing my tonque weight. I had been aiming at 15% of my total trailer weight, but I need to take it to the scales to see what my total weight is now.

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nice work!

If I can add something
for what its worth, the axels that you are using. They don't last long, just the components in general. As it was put to me "they are designed to deliver a house...once" thus the life span isn't what they could
....but I'm guessing that you know that!!!


as for your RZR, the 2010 has the better shocks

Good job, now get it loaded with fun stuff!!!
First off, Awesome Job you have did, I like it allot! Looks like you and yours will be having some good times with that Rig!!

His post qouted Travel Trailer Axles, might you be thinking Trailer House Axles? The Travel Trailer ones will last great, they were designed to go up and down the road.

I would have to agree, the Pop Up should go up front as far as you can get it and stack the Machines over the axels and on back.
Yes, the are travel trailer axles not trailer house axles, these are made for running up and down the highway.

When I set the location of the pop, I had the tongue on a scale. My tongue weight will be somewhere around 900 lbs w/ a razor. I didn't want to put the camper on the front because I will not always be hauling a RZR or ATV w/ me and then the tonque weight would be too much. The popup by itself weighs around 2000 and is positioned over the axles, slightly to the rear. If when I get a rzr loaded and the TW is too much, I can move my axles relatively easily towards the front to increase the weight in the back, therefore reducing my tonque weight. I had been aiming at 15% of my total trailer weight, but I need to take it to the scales to see what my total weight is now.

Nick

Ahhhhhhhh Cool, I understand now. I did not know that them Pop Ups were as heavy, I can see why you did it that way. I built a similiar one years ago with a 8foot Overhead Camper, it was not nearly as heavy. I bet you will have yours leveled out perfect once loaded up with the Toys! We really enjoyed our set up for years, till we started having lots of kids! LOL!! Then we had to go to something bigger, now it is back to just Momma and I and in reality all we need is something like your doing. Best of luck and you sure did a good looking job with it!
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Re: My homemade toyhauler

Looks great. I like how you positioned the pop up to rzr issue. That is what I would have done too.

Most people forget that you need tongue weight to keep trailer sway down. I can't tell you how many trailers I see wagging down the hwy because they lightened up the tongue weight to much with those weight distro hitches.

Add fenders to those tires.

Good job!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Terse View Post
Looks great. I like how you positioned the pop up to rzr issue. That is what I would have done too.

Most people forget that you need tongue weight to keep trailer sway down. I can't tell you how many trailers I see wagging down the hwy because they lightened up the tongue weight to much with those weight distro hitches.

Add fenders to those tires.

Good job!
Thanks. Good point on the fenders. I had bought some at Northern Tool but didnt like the looks of them on the trailer. I'd hate to have all the road grime thrown up on the trailer not to mention if I blew out a tire. I'd rather have the fender take a beating than my popup!

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