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post #1 of 31 Old March 30th, 2016, 12:42 PM Thread Starter
 
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2-4 person Head set on a budget!

RuggedRadios.com makes some awesome stuff and they are used professionally across multiple motorsports - but If you are a recreational rider like me and don't have a grand to drop on a 2-person headset package, then these are the next best thing at a fraction of the cost. They even have some advantages like being able to take them between different vehicles since they are completely self-contained.

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(2) SENA SMH-10 BT coms: www.SENA.com Roughly $200 for both
(2) 3M Pelter Noise reducing Earmuffs: www.3M.com $19ea. on Amazon

NOTE: SENA sells an adapter that connects your SENA headset to a CB radio. So you can still talk to all your buddies who don't have a Bluetooth headset.

Tools:
You will need a Drill, a bit (just slightly larger than your wires), razor blade and an optional cutting wheel/dremel (makes things faster), flat screwdriver/butter knife & painters blue tape.

The great thing about these 3M earmuffs are they come apart. So if anything gets messed up you can just purchase the individual parts on the cheap. The parts are also universal meaning they work on either side.
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The Build:
First, start by pulling out the foam on both of the earmuffs and set them aside.
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Next look at your mounting bracket that came with your SENA. Mine is intended to pinch itself around the shell of a motorcycle helmet. So I needed to cut a small slit in the bottom outermost part of my earmuff shell for it to slide into and pinch itself to the outside wall of the earmuffs. You can either do this carefully with a sharp razor by going over & over the same cut until it punches through, or use a cut off wheel like I did and save some time. Take your time and get it right! I outlined mine with painters tape so I wouldn't loose my positioning. You only need to do this on the left earmuff. Test fit and modify until you are happy with the placement, then go ahead and mount up your SENA.
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Next find where the short wire (left speaker) exits out the Com, start drilling a hole in your earmuffs where the two pieces (soft black pad/red frame) meet - being careful not to let the drill bit walk! This will be the entry point for your left speaker wire. NOTE: If you wanted to get an easy pilot started you could use a soldering gun with a point tip to melt the plastic for an easy start for your bit.

Once you drill through with the bit, you'll need to pop off the muffs, separating the soft black ear pad with the red frame. If it's stubborn use a flat screwdriver or butter knife on the INSIDE to pop them apart - that way you don't mar up the outside.
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After you've separated the pad from the red base, drill straight down the red base close to the inside edge to give the wire a place to go in behind and under the foam.

Then take your razor and cut a slit on the inside of the thin red wall so that you can spread the wall apart and slide your wire through it (Don't worry, It will be unnoticeable when you are done). Go ahead and run your Left speaker wire. Remember that foam you pulled out? Grab one of them and cut a small slit to allow the wire to pass through. Now place the Left speaker on the foam (the built-in Velcro will hold it in place) and then run the wire through the slit behind the foam. Insert the foam back into the left earmuff. Left side done!
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Run the Right speaker wire up and around. I made one very small slit in the top of the padding to zip tie the wire around the frame. then do the same procedure for drilling, running the Right speaker into the Right earmuff as you did for the left side.

Your Done!
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My overly detailed instructions may make it appear more difficult than it is, Ive never done anything like this before and I got it right on the first try.


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Re: 2-4 person Head set on a budget!

Just finished making my bluetooth wireless headsets. These are Sena 20s bluetooth setup. Just use regular earmuffs to mount these. You can use the 10 model Sena unit too. These are good for line of sight to 1.2 miles. 13 hour use, rechargeable, can connect 8 devices. Connect to other Sena headsets, phones, tablets, has voice commands, FM radio and more. Talk to one person or everyone. Too many things to list.

Makes the ride nice an quite and makes talking to my partner or other SxS easy.
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Just finished making my bluetooth wireless headsets. These are Sena 20s bluetooth setup. Just use regular earmuffs to mount these. You can use the 10 model Sena unit too. These are good for line of sight to 1.2 miles. 13 hour use, rechargeable, can connect 8 devices. Connect to other Sena headsets, phones, tablets, has voice commands, FM radio and more. Talk to one person or everyone. Too many things to list.

Makes the ride nice an quite and makes talking to my partner or other SxS easy.
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Cool, thanks for posting the results. It really is an nice inexpensive setup that works very well.

Did you get a chance to listen to any tunes while wearing it? That also works well.

If your out riding/camping for say several days at a time and need to charge it, you can charge it while using it (via any USB port). There are very few drawbacks to using this build.
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Re: 2-4 person Head set on a budget!

That is very interesting. Now to figure out how to tie it into a radio setup.

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That is very interesting. Now to figure out how to tie it into a radio setup.


http://www.sena.com/product/sr10/


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Re: 2-4 person Head set on a budget!

WoW great set up, the thing I like is you can take it from one vehicle to another.

That set up would work great in my power boat

That gives my $1200 Bose noise canceling head set a run for the money.

One of the best things is you have no wires hanging down.

I can't tell you how many times I go to get out of the RZR and have the head set ripped off my head because I forget to take it off
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Crafty! Nice job, I will be building a set of these in the near future! Thank you for sharing!

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For those trail riding through any wooded terrain this set up doesn't work. I tried these out on a trail ride and as soon as the person goes out of site they disconnect. If you are in an open area riding like the dunes I'm sure they would work fine but any type of obstruction trees,hills, ect. They constantly loose connection. Or if you just want to communicate with your passenger they work great. I'm going back to rugged radios with intercoms.
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For those trail riding through any wooded terrain this set up doesn't work. I tried these out on a trail ride and as soon as the person goes out of site they disconnect. If you are in an open area riding like the dunes I'm sure they would work fine but any type of obstruction trees,hills, ect. They constantly loose connection. Or if you just want to communicate with your passenger they work great. I'm going back to rugged radios with intercoms.
I'm not sure what model SENA headset you got but I get excellent range with mine - trees or not. I haven't had a single issue yet and all we have down here in FL is woods/trail riding. Its really nice to hand one of the the headsets to a buddy who doesnt have one in his ride and talk with him.

If you need the miles & miles of range a CB provides just get the BT to CB adapter I posted above. That way you still get the benefits of moving the headset from vehicle to vehicle, music and phone calls. So far though the BT alone has been excellent for me. Sorry for your troubles, I don't want to mislead anyone, thanks for posting your experience.
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