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Re: Clutch Spacer Removal... THE RIGHT WAY! (pics)
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Old August 13th, 2008, 10:05 AM
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taking the spacer out cant make any difference till the clutches are shifted almost all the way out past the point where the plastic ring stopped clutch travel originally. it just sits in there and floats around doing nothing untill probably 55mph where it finally limmits the travel of the primary clutch so the cvt system cant shift out any further. it "cant " do anything to how fast the machines takes off or any other area of clutch travel except times when the clutches are shifted all the way out. can't make a difference going up a giant dune becuase you wont be traveling fast enough for the clutch to be shifted out that far yet. only place I could see this mod slowing anyone down would be from maybe from 3/4 to full throttle on flat ground if the clutch shifts out to soon past where the plastic ring stopped it's travel before . you would still have a higher top speed but it might take a second or so longer to get from say, 50 to 55 than it did before but then it would push past that speed to 65 or so which it couldnt before. Im leaving mine in , mainly because mine runs 60mph bone stock here at sea level which is a couple miles per hour faster than my buddies rzr anyway so I dont need anymore top speed. how often does anyone need to go 65??
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taking the spacer out cant make any difference till the clutches are shifted almost all the way out past the point where the plastic ring stopped clutch travel originally. it just sits in there and floats around doing nothing untill probably 55mph where it finally limmits the travel of the primary clutch so the cvt system cant shift out any further. it "cant " do anything to how fast the machines takes off or any other area of clutch travel except times when the clutches are shifted all the way out. can't make a difference going up a giant dune becuase you wont be traveling fast enough for the clutch to be shifted out that far yet. only place I could see this mod slowing anyone down would be from maybe from 3/4 to full throttle on flat ground if the clutch shifts out to soon past where the plastic ring stopped it's travel before . you would still have a higher top speed but it might take a second or so longer to get from say, 50 to 55 than it did before but then it would push past that speed to 65 or so which it couldnt before. Im leaving mine in , mainly because mine runs 60mph bone stock here at sea level which is a couple miles per hour faster than my buddies rzr anyway so I dont need anymore top speed. how often does anyone need to go 65??
this is not correct . the centrifical clutch throws it together and the spacer stops it almost as soon as you press the go pedal to the floor . with out the spacer the belt goes higher on the pully gearing it higher losing acceleration . this is NOT a gradual thing like the guy above me believes it is( unless you are barely accelerating , in which case you would not be able to tell anyways ) . I do not care if any one agrees or disagrees . THIS IS THE WAY IT IS ! judt trying to give out ACURATE information from my own expierences . this will be my last post on this matter . BELIEVE ME I AM RIGHT ON THIS . nad i do still bump my speed limiter on the wider trails so I AM ONE THAT NEEDS IT TO GO 65 plus . I am not using words like might and mayb because i KNOW not trying to be a dick , just want you guys to know .
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Old August 13th, 2008, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE: this is not correct . the centrifical clutch throws it together and the spacer stops it almost as soon as you press the go pedal to the floor . with out the spacer the belt goes higher on the pully gearing it higher losing acceleration . this is NOT a gradual thing like the guy above me believes it is( unless you are barely accelerating , in which case you would not be able to tell anyways ) . I do not care if any one agrees or disagrees . THIS IS THE WAY IT IS ! judt trying to give out ACURATE information from my own expierences . this will be my last post on this matter . BELIEVE ME I AM RIGHT ON THIS . nad i do still bump my speed limiter on the wider trails so I AM ONE THAT NEEDS IT TO GO 65 plus . I am not using words like might and mayb because i KNOW not trying to be a dick , just want you guys to know .QUOTE:

having numerous racing snowmobiles and having been a certified motorcycle and atv mechanic for over 20 years I can honestly say without a doubt that you have no idea what you are talking about. everything I said above is 100 % correct. the only way it can shift all the way out is if you are running top speed wide open or if somehow you manage to spin the tires like on ice to 60mph while still sitting still or if you jack the bike up to where the wheels are of the ground while running and floor the throttle . LOL . even if you are spinning the tires on dirt or sand when you take off it wont shift even close to all the way out . this is a variable speed cvt transmission "not a centrifugal clutch. LOL . a centrifugal clutch isn't variable and has no secondard clutch and depends on slippage all the time . a cvt has no slippage once engaged . if it did your belt would wear out in a matter of minutes. a cvt just constantly changes gear ratio by the front pulley closing on the belt and the rear pulley opening to accept the belt. as soon as you let off the throttle the clutch system starts backshifting or, the belt drops back down in the front pulley and rises back to the top in the rear pulley. in case you hadnt noticed you have transmission with different speeds. just a high low reverse gearbox. the cvt acts as your transmission. you honestly have no clue what you are talking about. you need to do some more research before you come on and make totally uninformed statements . here is a centifugal clutch.

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or how about you watch this and then explain to me again about how sure you are?? LOL YouTube - Polaris EDGE CVT Clutches
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boatnaz you are too funny.... oh, and pass the popcorn.
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I still can't believe nobody has done accelerative performance testing with the spacer removed and not.
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no further comment from methodsomahan? guess he wasn't as sure as he thought he was.... LOL
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Did not even need to buy the spring compression tool
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just got done ! 53.4 stock (3 runs) 59.2 59.1 59.2 after removeal (top speed there but the bottom end is gone) it use to snap my head but that is all gone Just a nice transion! anybody tried cutting the spacer in 1/2?? Thanks for all your help
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It's a shame there isn't a dynamic spacer controlled by lever or electronically according to need... Now that would be cool!
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QUOTE: this is not correct . the centrifical clutch throws it together and the spacer stops it almost as soon as you press the go pedal to the floor . with out the spacer the belt goes higher on the pully gearing it higher losing acceleration . this is NOT a gradual thing like the guy above me believes it is( unless you are barely accelerating , in which case you would not be able to tell anyways ) . I do not care if any one agrees or disagrees . THIS IS THE WAY IT IS ! judt trying to give out ACURATE information from my own expierences . this will be my last post on this matter . BELIEVE ME I AM RIGHT ON THIS . nad i do still bump my speed limiter on the wider trails so I AM ONE THAT NEEDS IT TO GO 65 plus . I am not using words like might and mayb because i KNOW not trying to be a dick , just want you guys to know .QUOTE:

having numerous racing snowmobiles and having been a certified motorcycle and atv mechanic for over 20 years I can honestly say without a doubt that you have no idea what you are talking about. everything I said above is 100 % correct. the only way it can shift all the way out is if you are running top speed wide open or if somehow you manage to spin the tires like on ice to 60mph while still sitting still or if you jack the bike up to where the wheels are of the ground while running and floor the throttle . LOL . even if you are spinning the tires on dirt or sand when you take off it wont shift even close to all the way out . this is a variable speed cvt transmission "not a centrifugal clutch. LOL . a centrifugal clutch isn't variable and has no secondard clutch and depends on slippage all the time . a cvt has no slippage once engaged . if it did your belt would wear out in a matter of minutes. a cvt just constantly changes gear ratio by the front pulley closing on the belt and the rear pulley opening to accept the belt. as soon as you let off the throttle the clutch system starts backshifting or, the belt drops back down in the front pulley and rises back to the top in the rear pulley. in case you hadnt noticed you have transmission with different speeds. just a high low reverse gearbox. the cvt acts as your transmission. you honestly have no clue what you are talking about. you need to do some more research before you come on and make totally uninformed statements . here is a centifugal clutch.
why does it effect low end
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Old August 29th, 2008, 04:44 PM
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Re: Clutch Spacer Removal... THE RIGHT WAY! (pics)

great write up!

Any one in how to remove the spring and belt for a clutch kit? I'm new on this RZR odeal. did a few rhinos but this one is the first! Help wanted
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Old August 30th, 2008, 07:40 PM
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Re: Clutch Spacer Removal... THE RIGHT WAY! (pics)

Darn you guys!

I was about ready to remove my spacer and now a couple of guys here almost have me convinced I might loose some bottom end.

So I think I will hold off because I don't want to loose that low end torque.
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