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post #16 of 27 Old March 11th, 2012, 09:52 PM
 
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Re: Trailer Question: RZR & Sport Quad in a 7x14 open utility

I have never seen a 7x14 trailer with brakes. A open utility trailer i have two of them.
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Re: Trailer Question: RZR & Sport Quad in a 7x14 open utility

I've been pulling trailers for years, today I bought another trailer, Carson 16 ft dual axle car hauler with brakes. It weighs 1,700 lbs, and will carry my RZR (wet 1,100) , Sportsman 500 about 600lbs and Honda CRF250X about 350 lbs. . that brings total weight to around 3,750 lbs. If you ever have a flat on a single axle trailer at 65 mph it could easily take you out of control and lose it all. What is your vehicle, RZR, Quad and life worth? Get 2 axle trailer! The same goes for running without trailer brakes. You may not ever need them but the one time you do it will be worth the little extra they cost. It's kind of like wearing seat belts or wearing a helmet. I reach my destinations without the white knuckles I used to have when running single axle and no brakes.
By the way rule of thumb is to have between 10 and 15% total weight on the tongue of the trailer. Today I am carying only my RZR so I balanced to trailer to have 300 lbs tongue weight.
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Re: Trailer Question: RZR & Sport Quad in a 7x14 open utility

I agree on the trailer brakes i have them on all of my trailers except the two 7x14 and a 6x8 mower trailer. I have never seen a small trailer have brakes around here anyway.
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Re: Trailer Question: RZR & Sport Quad in a 7x14 open utility

Razr and Can-Am 500 on my 14X7 trailer, no trailer brakes and really no issues with not having any.



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Re: Trailer Question: RZR & Sport Quad in a 7x14 open utility

I'm in the middle on this one, but you do need to take into account what Captwag is saying. Brakes have nothing to do with cruizing down the freeway, they are about control of the vehicle in bad situations. You will have some weight behind you, which could be hard to stop under certain conditions like short off ramps, coming down mountains, wet roads, panic stops, etc. You have to take into consideration what kind of driving you are going to do and how much your life and cargo are worth in a situation you hope you never experience.

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Re: Trailer Question: RZR & Sport Quad in a 7x14 open utility

Here is a pic loaded up after a trip to West Virgina, the roundtrip is about 500 miles for me. The above concerns should certainly be taken into account and I'm sure it would be better to have the brakes, having said that I don't drive like a maniac with the trailer loaded up and never had any issues at all!! No matter how I configured the loading arrangement I could not get all four quads on the trailer, I always had to load my sons in the bed of the truck when we all went riding which was a drag. Load his in the bed, hook up trailer load and go and then the reverse when we got to the riding area....two more feet and they all could have been loaded on trailer because the two sport quads will fit side by side loaded front ends first.

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Re: Trailer Question: RZR & Sport Quad in a 7x14 open utility

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I've been pulling trailers for years, today I bought another trailer, Carson 16 ft dual axle car hauler with brakes. It weighs 1,700 lbs, and will carry my RZR (wet 1,100) , Sportsman 500 about 600lbs and Honda CRF250X about 350 lbs. . that brings total weight to around 3,750 lbs. If you ever have a flat on a single axle trailer at 65 mph it could easily take you out of control and lose it all. What is your vehicle, RZR, Quad and life worth? Get 2 axle trailer! The same goes for running without trailer brakes. You may not ever need them but the one time you do it will be worth the little extra they cost. It's kind of like wearing seat belts or wearing a helmet. I reach my destinations without the white knuckles I used to have when running single axle and no brakes.
By the way rule of thumb is to have between 10 and 15% total weight on the tongue of the trailer. Today I am carying only my RZR so I balanced to trailer to have 300 lbs tongue weight.
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You see way to many guys with too much tongue weight.....truck sags in the rear, makes it hard on the steering, brakes, front tires, etc....

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When I load my Rzr in the 16' double axle I stop when the truck drops a inch or so. Not sure of exact tongue weight but I been loading my trailers like this for years and always pulls great.............

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When I load my Rzr in the 16' double axle I stop when the truck drops a inch or so...........
14'-16' is where you graduate from mower hauling to real trailer land.
You have to choose whether to step up to tandem axles and then the almighty weight distribution bars. Add $300-$600.

The OP never said single axle. I just presume people aren't talking the tiny stuff in front of K-Mart.

A 7x14' single axle w/3" rails and 24" centers is one thing.
A legal width 16' tandem w/5" rails and 12" centers is another.

Many of us loads like Brad said. You watch your truck drop a little and you know where its right. But with weight distribution you can keep going forward and bury the bumper. Then level up.

First time I saw that was at an antique furniture auction. Buyer had a 24' enclosed and was loading everything to the front. He had to. No telling how much he was gonna keep buying or how much he would get rid of on the long trip home. One trick I saw was he dropped his bully dog jack first. Whether you are loading a RZR or other far forward drop that first or you will never get your bars in place.
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My 16 ft double axle Carson Car Hauler weighs 1,700 lbs and has a 200 lb tongue weight unloaded which is just over the necessary 10% for towing. When I stand on the bumper of my tow vehicle with my 220 pounds that I weigh it drops about an inch, it drops about the same inch when I hook up the empty trailer. When loading a 1,000 lb RZR you need to have a minimum of 270lbs tongue weight. Get 2 people with a combined weight of about 300 lbs to stand on the bumper to see how much it lowers the tow vehicle then adjust the loaded trailer to lower the tow bumper the same amount. For safety reasons always check the maximum load capacity of the hitch.
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always check your bar and ball ratings as well. many of the walmart style balls are only 5000lb ratings. Get a couple of RZRs, trailer, water, gear, and you are over.

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Re: Trailer Question: RZR & Sport Quad in a 7x14 open utility

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Need help...

Buying a trailer tomorrow and will be pulling a RZR800s and either a KFX450 or TRX250 sport quad inside. Will be pulling with a 2010 Ford F-150 SuperCrew.

Do I need trailer brakes with the RZR and quad in the trailer. It is 7x14 open utility trailer.

The rep at the trailer sales office says "you have a real truck and will not use daily so I dont thik you need them", "if you used 4 days a week and pulled with s-10 then yes"

What does everyone think...
Here is a picture on a 12' trailer. Very tight but worked. As for as brakes most states don't require them under 3500# trailer.
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