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Old April 3rd, 2012, 07:21 AM
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Re: Hard to Start when Warm

I dont know if it will do any good but I did call Polaris Consumer service to fill them in on the problem and they started a case onit. Whatever that means.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 07:34 AM
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Re: Hard to Start when Warm

I also called Polaris Consumer Services, and they told me to go to my dealer. The dealer would then contact Polaris's tech dept.
Its been 10 days, and nothing yet.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 05:51 PM
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 07:26 PM
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Re: Hard to Start when Warm

Ya this is bull. Mine just did this too. Is polaris going to fix this?
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Old April 4th, 2012, 05:04 AM
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Re: Hard to Start when Warm

When I first got my 2012 800 last september the idle would often stay high, making it impossible to shift. After a hundred miles or so that problem completely disappeared. At about 200 miles the intermittent hot restart issue started. Two weeks ago it was so bad that I took to just leaving it idle. Last weekend at Rock Run it worked nearly flawlessly, only one mild sputter after many, many restarts. I monitored the temp all weekend doing restarts at everything from 170 to 206 degrees. My friends brand new 800 did it once real bad, so he can't laugh at me anymore! My guess- A check valve in the fuel system that intermittently does not seat, bleeding off the fuel pressure.

Fuel return lines are a thing of the past. Warm fuel being dumped back in the tank causes too much evaporative emissions
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Old April 4th, 2012, 05:38 AM
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Re: Hard to Start when Warm

Quote: Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
My guess- A check valve in the fuel system that intermittently does not seat, bleeding off the fuel pressure.:

id say it is more than that. i have tried to cycle the ignition a couple times when it acts up to make sure the system has pressure and it still does it.
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Old April 4th, 2012, 08:16 AM
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Re: Hard to Start when Warm

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Sam........it sounds like you have a lean issue or an air leak?
I haven't had a chance to check for intake leaks but if this were the problem would it not idle fast all of the time? My fast idle is intermittent. And the same with other lean issues, what would cause intermittent lean issues?

The fast idle seems to occur after hard start problems but not everytime. I just cant help to think that both issues are heat related. Maybe one of the sensors getting too hot afer shutdown and giving false readings until the sensor cools... ???

There were some posts on here earlier about a fiberglass (?) isolator gasket that some had success with. Has there been anymore developments on that?
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Re: Hard to Start when Warm

IF my guess is correct and the fuel pressure is not being held properly, the the non-pressurized fuel in the line will "heat soak",turn to vapor and form a bubble. This vapor will have to be pushed through the injector while cranking before liquid gasoline would be available for injection. This was real common on early fuel-injected cars. My next step is to rig up a fuel pressure gauge for the next ride.
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Old April 8th, 2012, 07:37 PM
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Re: Hard to Start when Warm

Well I did about 60 miles today with high temps in the upper 50's. I kept a close eye on the motor temperature and it ran from about 194 to 206 degrees and not once after shutting it down did I have a starting issue! And I put 87 octane in when I filled her up......So now what?
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Re: Hard to Start when Warm

This is a good question u pose. I'm sick over wondering if mine will screw up on my next ride. Haven't had mine out since. I was planning on draining tank and filling up with high test fuel. But I guess ill stand by and see what others report. I just don't see much consistancy on the reporting of what a fix would be.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 09:04 AM
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Re: Hard to Start when Warm

I have instaled an adjustable fan controller on the s. Went riding twice over the weekend with some success on the hard start issue. Only twice did the machine idle a little rough after restart. I believe I need to continue experimenting with the adjustment of the fan controller and placement of the radiator probe. Currently the radiator probe is inserted between the shroud and radiator on the drivers side which I have found to be the cooler side of the radiator because both coolant lines are on the passenger side. I am going to relocate the radiator probe to the hotter side so that it will kick the fan on faster. Right now the fan kicks on when the temp gauge is showing 199 and kicks of at 194 but after shutdown I have still seen the temp spike to 216. I have to say the issue is a lot better with the fan controller. Will report more later if I can get this to work out.

Still have the fast idle issue though. It happened on both rides this weekend. Always seems to occur after about 2 hours into the ride and always seems to start when descending long gradual hills with engine being left at idle and using brakes while decending. ???
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Re: Hard to Start when Warm

Mine hasen't done it the last two rides out either...who knows.

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Re: Hard to Start when Warm

i have a 2012 rzr s and does the samething on the new models there is a safety temp. swicth that makes it run bad so you cant hurt thr motor i found that when i shut mine down right when the fan turns on that the temp will get high that the safety is shutting it down seen mine at 206 shut bike off before starting noticed temp was at 226 so take note of temp before you star might be a safety thing going on
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Re: Hard to Start when Warm

267 posts and we STILL don't have a clue. My God! I've only 2 miles on my ride since I bought it new. (I travel with my job) What the hay???!!!

Can't Polaris get this thing figured out? What would we all be "thinking" BEFORE the internet? Did I buy a major lemon??!! At least we can feel each other's pain!
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Old April 14th, 2012, 06:23 AM
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Safety don't kick in til 235...... mine will sputter at 210 if it has been sitting for more than 5 min.....

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