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#1 · (Edited)
Are the after market e brakes / parking brakes (not sure if that's the same thing) any different to the ones fitted as stock to a true road legal version?
 
#3 ·
Not sure what you mean by Ines? But the answer is yes if your talking e-brakes in passenger vehicles. The e-brakes offered aftermarket for the RZR lock the brake pedal in the applied position using the hydraulics to lock the brakes. Passenger car e-brakes are 100% mechanical using cables and a lever to apply an auxiliary set of brake shoes totally independent of the primary braking system.
 
#4 ·
Typo. Ones not Ines.

To be road legal in the UK it appears that you need a mechanical brake, though this seems to be contradictory between the professionals that check the car... some say the 'park' mode of the gearbox is adequate to pass. Some of you may have seen the international version of the RZR comes with a hand brake that looks like it connects to something on the engine rather than the wheels.

Ive seen plenty of cheap brackets that lock the foot pedal on and only the rather expensive polaris kit to add this 'hand brake' function. I just wondered if you could get a kit other than the polaris with would perform the same function.
 
#5 ·
It's amazing that after all these years Polaris has not addressed the lack of parking/emergency brake situation. They obviously never envisioned having to stop on a steep incline to check things out.

Getting stuck in park on an incline has been a bane. Trusting an aftermarket hydraulic brake pedal device has been tough for me after my RZR rolled off the trailer one night after things cooled off and contracted.

I considered ordering up all the parts associated with the international model, which is apparently mechanical, but that quickly became impractical and expensive. I just carry a cheap-o plastic tire chock these days, or adopt a local rock. I forget to remove it half the time too--what a pain.
 
#8 ·
No, it wasn't in park, I didn't want it to get stuck, so I set my trusty aftermarket brake pedal device and found out the hard way about the contraction thing.

I would buy a mechanical E brake for my RZR in a flash. Polaris must have thought we were going to use them as golf carts or something.
 
#10 ·
There is a better brake lockup system then the pedal locking type it still use's the hydraulic brake system but it doesn't rely on the master cylinder to hold the pressure its called a line lock brake normally it locks the front brakes down after you step on the brake's a solenoid block's the fuild in the front and to release you just flip a toggle to release the pressure and drive away
Pappy

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#13 ·
The only option you will have then is to build your own parking brake system either modify a system from another vehicle or build it from scratch there are no aftermarket parking brakes that employ a mechanical brake for a polaris RZR
Good luck there have been others looking for this too with no luck

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#16 ·
Mordzy,

I see that the international version of the XP1000 came with a mechanical parking brake.
The parts add up in a hurry. Transmission case is $302.00 and the pinion shaft in transmission is $284.00. You would need brake lever, cable, pads, disc, and brackets, plus labor to change shaft and cover on transmission. You may be able to find a used international transmission and install it.
 

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#17 ·
Awesome post with some good detail. Would love to have a true mechanical e-brake like that but wow $$$$. Polaris has really missed a big issue here. I don't know if it's a money thing or they just don't see a need, but it is definitely necessary.

I got stuck half way up a steep narrow mountain trail that had a tree across it. I put it park to jump out and hook up chains to the tree - then I was stuck for 30 min trying to get it back out of park! When these machines roll back on the park gear it's impossible to get it out unless you remove the pressure off it. I had my wife get in the drivers seat to get it out of park and hit the brake while I used logs to get enough leverage to move the machine forward enough to get the pressure off the park gear. When it does finally pop out of park it makes you cringe.

First thing when I got home I ordered a hydraulic park brake (one that uses the master cylinder). It's 100% foot activated with an auto release. But the instructions were very clear about it not being a parking brake that you leave on for long periods. It's perfect for what it was made for though.

Until it happened to me you would not have been able to convince me it's needed.


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#18 ·
All of this sounds so too real from the stories we continually hear from RzR riders, about their cars either rolling down a hill while in park, or feeling like the tranny is going to explode while pulling it back into "drive" after putting it in park.

Our parking brake is a very affordable solution to the tranny "bang" and potential rolling down a hill when not wanting to.

Check it out at Spring Brake Thingy
 
#19 ·
I can see the need for mechanical e-brake, but keep in mind that most will only lock the rear wheels. Usually when I need it, I am on a steep incline on 3 wheels and need to get out and check my line. I am happy to hydrolicaly lock all 4 wheels. I'm a trailer, I lock the brakes and put it in park. I never rely solely on the brake, but it's great to take the stress off the transmission while still using park.

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#20 ·
See for me being in the UK. It needs to have a mechanical E-brake to pass the MOT (Ministry of Transport) test to be road legal. While i can find many 3rd party solutions that use either a latch over the foot pedal etc. From my understanding they don't meet the required legislation over here which needs to have some form of adjustment and a ratchet. Hence the 'international' version of the RZR which must have been a Polaris afterthought to meet UK/EU legislation for use on a highway. That said @springbrakething's solution does look the best i have seen.

If id spent more time researching I would have known what was required and saved a bit harder for one of them. As it happens I jumped in with both feet and picked up what i thought was a bargain. And now i find myself retrospectively looking for a solution :(

The only think i can think is to get a hydraulic handbrake that actuates the rear callipers. However I've yet to find one that has a ratchet. They are look like hooningan turn brakes. lol
 
#21 ·
Good news. I just spoke to a MOT tester and "Auto transmission with a 'Park' position is acceptable as a means of parking brake for quads." But i may require an 'IVA' (individual vehicle approval) before i can submit for an MOT. Not all bad and probably pick up one of Spring Brake Thingy's devices... if you can ship to the UK.
 
#22 · (Edited)
Unfortunately i was misinformed (again) because its over 600kg it requires a mechanical brake. It will require an MSVA (Motorcycle Single Vehicle Approval)

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/motorcycle-single-vehicle-approval-inspection-manual

Extract from the MSVA manual regarding brakes.

Brakes


16/2
3. Check that every motorcycle tricycle or motorcycle quadricycle is equipped with either;
a) two independent service braking devices fitted, one acting on the front axle/one acting on the rear axle which together operate the brakes on all the wheels
or
wheels and
c) a secondary (emergency) braking device ( that may be the parking
brake)
or
and in addition to any of the above
e) a parking brake device that operates on the wheels of at least one axle Acceptable combinations are: a) & e) or b),c) & e) or d) & e)
4. Check that every other tricycle or quadricycle is equipped with;
a) a foot controlled service brake device, that operates on all wheels b) a secondary (emergency) brake device (that may be the parking
brake), and
c) a parking brake device, that operates on the wheels of at least one axle
5. Check that the service brake system or systems are capable of being operated from the riding or driving position whilst keeping both hands on the steering control.
6. Check (where applicable) that the secondary braking system; a) operates progressively
b) is able to be applied from the driving position while keeping one hand on the steering control
7. Check (where applicable) that the parking brake system; a) is able to be applied from the driving position
b) uses a control that is operated independently from any service brake and can be positively locked on
c) is able to be held in the “on” position by purely mechanical means

From this i think i require a ratchet type e-brake that could operate the existing callipers as long as it could be locked on. Having a latch on the pedal wouldn't be a pass.
 
#27 ·
If you used a gocart mechanical disc brake you might be able to attach it to your forward differential drive shaft or even a separate hydraulic disc break attracted to the drive shaft but you mite need 4 wheel drive engaged to lock that drive shaft

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