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post #1 of 15 Old November 1st, 2010, 05:27 AM Thread Starter
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I've heard all of the Chinese POS rhetoric and I'm not a fan of chinese stuff myself but there are a few good machines out now like the Kymcos for instance so save everybody's time if all you have to contribute is negative speculation.

I'm just wondering if anybody actually owns one or has seen one and can speak first hand about it ?

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I've heard all of the Chinese POS rhetoric and I'm not a fan of chinese stuff myself but there are a few good machines out now like the Kymcos for instance so save everybody's time if all you have to contribute is negative speculation.
I'm just wondering if anybody actually owns one or has seen one and can speak first hand about it ?
I have "heard" that the dash layout look decent...

But as this is a RZR Forum this is no different than coming and asking us about purchasing a Rhino, or Can-Am, I'm sure there are Forums dedicated to these machines as well. I hold no issues with products made overseas, world trade can be a good thing. however in a time when Americans are fighting everyday to stay above the water and breathe, I would be hard pressed to spend my money on something like this. Even taking this product out of the picture, I haven't stepped into a "Wal-mart" since long before the recession has started, with the exception of sending my wife to get Blue Gatorade (nobody else carries that mix up here in Alaska in the big can size).

Back on subject.. I know you mean well, But ask yourself what you plan to do with this. If it's everything that we do in our RZRs I just don't see it happening, If they were just as good and half the price, most Americans would probably own one.. I know your worried about the "Rhetoric" so I will leave it at that. There are a few video's of it "off-road" on YouTube, I think that we have one member who has one of these personally for using as a work machine and goofing around, and I also believe we have a second member who has one in the "Family". There are quite a few on here who have driven one.. I don't recall anyone making statements as to whether any particular after market stuff would fit?

If $ is the issue (and that's none of my business) I would truthfully and humbly recommend that you purchase an 08 RZR used before you even get a 2011-12 of those, I truly think it will treat you better and last much longer.. JMHO

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Fair Enough... Like I said I'm not a big fan of this stuff... The fact that nobody knows about this tells me something right there. There are a couple of things that have kept me from buying a RZR that this seems to have like more ground clearance and cargo space and a parking brake. I'm certainly not ready to take a leap of faitrh on something like this and I couldn't agree more about buying American going forward especially now that our basic freedoms are at risk.

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I've heard all of the Chinese POS rhetoric and I'm not a fan of chinese stuff myself but there are a few good machines out now like the Kymcos for instance so save everybody's time if all you have to contribute is negative speculation.
I'm just wondering if anybody actually owns one or has seen one and can speak first hand about it ?
I have "heard" that the dash layout look decent...

But as this is a RZR Forum this is no different than coming and asking us about purchasing a Rhino, or Can-Am, I'm sure there are Forums dedicated to these machines as well. I hold no issues with products made overseas, world trade can be a good thing. however in a time when Americans are fighting everyday to stay above the water and breathe, I would be hard pressed to spend my money on something like this. Even taking this product out of the picture, I haven't stepped into a "Wal-mart" since long before the recession has started, with the exception of sending my wife to get Blue Gatorade (nobody else carries that mix up here in Alaska in the big can size).

Back on subject.. I know you mean well, But ask yourself what you plan to do with this. If it's everything that we do in our RZRs I just don't see it happening, If they were just as good and half the price, most Americans would probably own one.. I know your worried about the "Rhetoric" so I will leave it at that. There are a few video's of it "off-road" on YouTube, I think that we have one member who has one of these personally for using as a work machine and goofing around, and I also believe we have a second member who has one in the "Family". There are quite a few on here who have driven one.. I don't recall anyone making statements as to whether any particular after market stuff would fit?

If $ is the issue (and that's none of my business) I would truthfully and humbly recommend that you purchase an 08 RZR used before you even get a 2011-12 of those, I truly think it will treat you better and last much longer.. JMHO

Good luck
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We had an chinese atv and it wasn't that reliable,you will not know when they will broke down.

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The Chinese stuff is a huge waste of money. There all made of cheap materials, the break frequently, and you cant get parts for them. Your better off buying a name brand atv/utv. It will be reliable, and if it breaks you can get parts for it.
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If it had the 70hp that the rzr needs, I would like to drive one. Of course, it would stress a lot of other components, so it might break down a lot. Like you said, the RZR needs just a couple things to make it almost perfect for many of us. I still would kill for a Polaris parking brake, and a real engine braking system, like the Polaris quad's have. For me, if the ground clearance was higher, it would be too tippy for the type of riding I do.

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That thing doesnt look like a rzr and even the specs dont add up. A v-twin engine sticks out at me. Also it says top speed of 75mph with 55hp @6800rpm with a weight of 1500lbs. Two things must be true for that to be true. #1 its gear ratio is higher than a rzr and #2 its going down hill.

My biggest concern with a product like this is #1 does anybody know the specific factory that it is made. #2 are any replacement parts available. #3 exactly how bad is the suspension, steering, etc... for it to be priced that low? You really have to be concerned with #2. what if the starter goes out? can you find one to replace it? if not, you're dead.

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also, maybe a side note if you were thinking about that one on ebay.....the seller only has a 83% positive feedback score.

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I've never seen anything bounce quite like that before. I'm not going to hammer Chinese junk, their metallurgy is on par with what the rest of the world had back in the 50's and their switchgear is often really crude, their engines are often shabby clones or they are using leftover Japanese and Korean tools to cast their parts but other than that. . I don't see why they won't sell well in third world countries.
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why? it does not even look like a rzr the seats are way to high like a rhino so that brings your center of gravity up un like the rzr watch when he is running over the rocks it is just bouncing around looks very unstable and looks like the suspention is not absorbing the shock
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What the hell, that thing has a parking brake



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I here you guys... But here's the thing... Like I said I am not a fan of these Chinese knockoffs but this to me would be a good template for a major manufacturer to look at. It's sort of a hybrid RZR/Rhino . It's narrower than a Rhino and a bit wider than a RZR. It has more cargo space than a RZR, a real parking brake and true 4wd lockers and 12.6" of ground clearance, EFI and it goes 75mph if you believe what it says.. It looks good and I like the cage design. I can't really tell about the engine positioning but it looks more RZR than Rhino and it says Vtwin with 8 valves so the torque must be good. So basically this is what I would consider ideal specs for what I do...
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we have a "china buggy" that comes out with our group, if you understand what you are getting into it can be "ok". the buggy is a 800cc roketa with a turbo and fox 2.0's all around. the owner has put a lot of effort into making it work, he works on it constantly and it shows. the actual over the trail performance is very good and he has never failed to complete a ride(our longest day so far was 80miles). in the end he is into it for about the cost of a used rzr and the machine is slightly faster, handles a bit better at high speed but does not have 4wd of our rzr. it also requires a lot of tlc in between rides(he really like's working on it).
if you understand what you are getting into you can make them work but there is no free lunch here, in the end similiar levels of performance will cost you similiar levels of $$.
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Yep... that and there is no dealer network and the resale value is squat and with this particular one it's really not a direct clone of anything so probably not much parts interchange for it... I'm well versed on Chinos as they are called where I come from but I see some merit to this overall configuration. I sort of thought that the Can Am would more closely resemble something like this. A little smaller and more RZR like. It almost makes we wonder if this is based on a Yamaha prototype that was halted or something . It really does seem to be unique.

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we have a "china buggy" that comes out with our group, if you understand what you are getting into it can be "ok". the buggy is a 800cc roketa with a turbo and fox 2.0's all around. the owner has put a lot of effort into making it work, he works on it constantly and it shows. the actual over the trail performance is very good and he has never failed to complete a ride(our longest day so far was 80miles). in the end he is into it for about the cost of a used rzr and the machine is slightly faster, handles a bit better at high speed but does not have 4wd of our rzr. it also requires a lot of tlc in between rides(he really like's working on it).
if you understand what you are getting into you can make them work but there is no free lunch here, in the end similiar levels of performance will cost you similiar levels of $$.
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