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post #1 of 25 Old July 15th, 2010, 09:03 PM Thread Starter
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Question CFMOTO Terracross 600 vs. RZR

Couldn't find any mention of this on the forum (I apologize if its already been posted or talked-to-death about), but what are your thoughts on the new CFMOTO Terracross 600?

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What are the comparisons? I looked through the specs and notice that theirs is 52" rather than the 50", has a bit less clearance, etc...

I never heard about them until a salesman at our ATV club tonight told me that I should have bought one of them instead since they are "identical" to the RZR and cost on average about $4,000 less.

For some reason, these seem like a complete knock-off and I'm not sure they would hold up to the RZR in a stand-off. I'm quite happy with my RZR... even though I will be paying for it forever.

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looking at what i see i agree to the knock-off wanna-b. This thing looks like shit. you couldent pay me to ride crap like that. I think you get what you pay for that POS wouldent do anything near what i have seen and done in a RZR.
But also you know polaris makes a great product, stuff on everything breaks and needs repair it is life and is a machine stuff goes wrong from time to time and driver abuse is usually the cause.

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Couldn't find any mention of this on the forum (I apologize if its already been posted or talked-to-death about), but what are your thoughts on the new CFMOTO Terracross 600?

CFMOTO International Website!

What are the comparisons? I looked through the specs and notice that theirs is 52" rather than the 50", has a bit less clearance, etc...

I never heard about them until a salesman at our ATV club tonight told me that I should have bought one of them instead since they are "identical" to the RZR and cost on average about $4,000 less.

For some reason, these seem like a complete knock-off and I'm not sure they would hold up to the RZR in a stand-off. I'm quite happy with my RZR... even though I will be paying for it forever.

Discussion anyone?
Discussion anyone? Yeah it's a piece of Chinese made shizz.
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Re: CFMOTO Terracross 600 vs. RZR

Well, that answers my question then.

They are going to be riding these things this weekend and invited members to ride along. Wondering if I should go and take my RZR to see who gets stuck first.
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Re: CFMOTO Terracross 600 vs. RZR

Personally I'd rather see someone with actual experience commenting on it instead of all the hating by people who have never even seen one.

It's not like the Rzr can't be improved on.

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Re: CFMOTO Terracross 600 vs. RZR

Alright folks, I decided to go on the ride today to see what this thing looked like. Unfortunately, since it was a prototype, law enforcement busted the shop manager for not having license plates on them (he had his RZR clone and another 2011 prototype ATV) so they couldn't take them up the mountain.

However, after we got back, I checked out the clone for a bit and even was allowed to drive it. Here are some pics:







There are definitely some differences with this thing. A couple of them are that it has built-in brights, a fully digital cluster, and built-in turn signals. I wish Polaris would note these things.

However, when I drove it (when the Forest Service rangers were not around), my opinion changed a bit. It felt under-powered and the throttle was a bit mushy. I really had to romp on it to get it to go. Clutch engagement did not sound good and it squealed and lurched a bit every time I stopped and started.

The ride was a little rough and there were quite a bit of squeaks and rattles. I was a little nervous about the clearance and took it quite slow over some of the larger stuff, but it never bottomed out. Something about it just felt... big - it might have been that I am used to the slimmer body style of the RZR - I don't know.

The positives were that it sounded good, ran well, and the instrument cluster was a pleasure to look at. I also appreciated the hand brake. The brakes in general felt solid too. I wish I could have driven it further to really understand the suspension, but at the end of the test drive, I was ready to jump back into the RZR. Biased? Probably - I'm a Polaris fan. I think I really made the right choice with a tried and true and high-quality model.

I also rode one of their prototype ATV's, and, I have to say, the ride was surprisingly cushy. Very impressed. It handled much better than I thought and felt good. My right leg got a little toasty though from whatever component was putting out the heat. Maybe some of that ride quality will rub off onto their RZR clone.

Here's another picture for fun on top of the mountain we climbed. The orange/red vehicle in the back left is a fellow RZR (had a blower, modified exhaust, and some kind of tricked-out shocks and springs - I also got a chance to drive that thing and it really moves!).



The yellow ATV next to my RZR is a CF Moto as well.

So there it is folks. I did my homework and now I appreciate my RZR even more than before!
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It looks like they missed the ball on a few things like the way low GC on sides especially. However it is only a matter of time before someone over there hits a homer. Remember Yamaha, Honda, Kawisaki, They are all asian brands that figured it out. It is just moving from Japan now to China.
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Well all they gotta do-now...is sell a few of -em...and take-over...for some un-known reason... A-lotta Americans like to buy stuff from China and Japan...

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Re: CFMOTO Terracross 600 vs. RZR

Thank you Rob for the fair ride report.
Just one question--where's the engine & trans on the CFMoto? Is it all behind the seats like in the Rzr? All the other 'clones' I'm aware of were more like a Rhino with at least part of the engine under your butt. This one seems different.

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The Dash w/gauges is is Way-Good looking

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Thank you Rob for the fair ride report.
Just one question--where's the engine & trans on the CFMoto? Is it all behind the seats like in the Rzr? All the other 'clones' I'm aware of were more like a Rhino with at least part of the engine under your butt. This one seems different.
Well, I popped the seat out right as the wind and dust was blowing and it was starting to rain harder so I didn't look as closely as I would like to have. There was no access door - everything was exposed (perhaps because its just a prototype?) It definitely looks different under there and looked as though the clutch cover was facing the left side (a 90° placement difference than whats on ours). But I didn't study it close enough to say what the placement of everything was though. I really should have snapped a picture of that. But I think most of the engine and trans were placed behind the seat. It almost looked like it was overflowing into the center a bit.

Another observation I had was that when I turned a corner sharp to park it, the rear wheels started to skip sorta like they do on the RZR. I assumed it didn't have a differential like ours. The manager came over when he saw that and thought it was in 4wd but found it wasn't. He was confused because he claimed it had a rear differential.
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Another observation I had was that when I turned a corner sharp to park it, the rear wheels started to skip sorta like they do on the RZR. I assumed it didn't have a differential like ours. The manager came over when he saw that and thought it was in 4wd but found it wasn't. He was confused because he claimed it had a rear differential.
Looks like one of the switchs on the dash may unlock the rear diff for turning around,similar to the "Turf Mode" on the Sportsman 2 up ATVs.
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EX CFMOTO Dealer here, sold them and several other China ATV's for over 3 years. I'll try and give some positives and negatives on the CFMOTO brand overall.

Positive
First they are the best of the China made ATV's. They are trying to established reputable dealerships in America to service and sale their product. They come with a 1 year bumper to bumper factory warranty.
Engines start and run everytime, great engines! Suspension is very comfortable on the ATV's. Good looking product.

Negative
Quality is substandard to polaris. They use their customers for R&D and then don't listen to them anyway. Parts are always in short supply, as a dealer weve waited up to 6 months for a part before. Drive system exhaust is way too low, water leaks in very easily and belt slips.
Problems on their ATV's and UTV's just to name a few,
clutch installed backwards from factory, master cylinder lockup, master cylinder leaking, Throttle cables breaking, 4wd actuator leaks in water and dosen't work, start button, light switches all cheap, cheap and don't last, headlights leak water and dust, bulbs burn out quickly, exhaust runs along inside of right leg on ATV's with no heat shield. Digital dash would be great if it would work for more than 6 months.
All in all, if you want to save money, deal with more problems, wait on getting your part and stay at home when all your other friends are riding then buy one. If you drive one less than 50 miles a year and just putt around the back yard it maybe for you. However there is absolutely no resale value on them, once you buy, plan on owning it for it's short life span.

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EX CFMOTO Dealer here, sold them and several other China ATV's for over 3 years. I'll try and give some positives and negatives on the CFMOTO brand overall.

Positive
First they are the best of the China made ATV's. They are trying to established reputable dealerships in America to service and sale their product. They come with a 1 year bumper to bumper factory warranty.
Engines start and run everytime, great engines! Suspension is very comfortable on the ATV's. Good looking product.

Negative
Quality is substandard to polaris. They use their customers for R&D and then don't listen to them anyway. Parts are always in short supply, as a dealer weve waited up to 6 months for a part before. Drive system exhaust is way too low, water leaks in very easily and belt slips.
Problems on their ATV's and UTV's just to name a few,
clutch installed backwards from factory, master cylinder lockup, master cylinder leaking, Throttle cables breaking, 4wd actuator leaks in water and dosen't work, start button, light switches all cheap, cheap and don't last, headlights leak water and dust, bulbs burn out quickly, exhaust runs along inside of right leg on ATV's with no heat shield. Digital dash would be great if it would work for more than 6 months.
All in all, if you want to save money, deal with more problems, wait on getting your part and stay at home when all your other friends are riding then buy one. If you drive one less than 50 miles a year and just putt around the back yard it maybe for you. However there is absolutely no resale value on them, once you buy, plan on owning it for it's short life span.

The ol saying "You get what you pay for"
"However there is absolutely no resale value on them, once you buy, plan on owning it for it's short life span."
Most of the rest may or may not be true for a brand-new machine that's not even on the market yet but for sure you're right about the resale value. The money you save at purchase you'll lose at trade-in. China machines are great values when bought used...not so much if bought new.

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