Help Please - Polaris RZR Forum

Hobeich · #1 (**permalink**) October 20th, 2008, 01:27 PM

Hey I need a little help from you all. I was out riding for about 2 hours on sunday. About 3/4 was through the ride the RPMs droped when at idle. The RPM were about 850, I finished the ride brought it home and then it would not start without giving it gas, if I let off it would stall out. I looked around and found that the boot from the air box to the throttle body had fallen off and thus dirt was directly being sucked in. My RZR only has 11 hours on it and I know that dirt is on the TPS where the throttle plate is and that is why the RPMs are so low. Well I took it to the dealer and they said that they may have to rebuild the top end and possibly the whole motor if dirt got in. Is that true, because I thought that I could just remove and clean the throttle body? Here is the bad part, they do not think that the warrenty will cover the damage because "it is the drives responsibility to check that before rides. Well I am lost, I would think that polaris realize this problem since many people have had the same problem with the boot. Anyway let me know what you thoughts are and the best way to fix this problem.

friedman72 · #2 (**permalink**) October 20th, 2008, 01:52 PM

Just tell them that you did check it while riding and the p.o.s. polaris intake which no one will deny is just that, fell off while riding. Who's to say whether it did or didn't. Cleaning the throttle body will only prevent the dust that is in the tb from causing further damage.... but from your description the damage is already done. That said, stay away from ride now! They are wothless and would rather have a customer pay ticket than a warranty, techs and service advisors make more on those types of tickets. Call Iron City polaris and tell them that it fell off while riding and set up an appointment to have one of their techs take a look at it. After they cover it.... do not pass go... do not collect $200.00 proceed directly back to your computer and order up a DFR or Ump setup. Good Luck and keep us posted!

jlestanguet · #3 (**permalink**) October 20th, 2008, 02:01 PM

i agree with friedman had to have a new motor put in my rzr for the same reason dont give up the squeeky wheel gets greased. I had to fight but finaly got a new motor at no cost to me. but did spend 500.00 on a dfr filter befor putting any time on the new motor.

Hobeich · #4 (**permalink**) October 20th, 2008, 02:12 PM

Yeah I have the new filter system and I have not had a chance to put it on, I just got it on friday and wanted to ride on satuday so I did not want to mess with it just yet, big mistake. I am going to let ridenow have it if they do not fix it for me. So you all think that the damage is already done? When they redo the motor do they rebuild and clean it od do they order a whole new motor

friedman72 · #5 (**permalink**) October 20th, 2008, 02:21 PM

Most of the time they will open the motor and see what damage is done and then replace and clean accordingly. But some times if (from a cost effective stand point) I have heard of them replacing a motor, but thats a rarer circumstance. What shop is it at? Town and Country?

Hobeich · #6 (**permalink**) October 20th, 2008, 04:44 PM

it is ridenow, i think that is the old town and country

new8812 · #7 (**permalink**) October 20th, 2008, 11:29 PM

Don't worry, Polaris will stand, your dealer is

;o)

Hobeich · #8 (**permalink**) October 21st, 2008, 12:59 PM

Ha, yeah I agree with that

walbright · #9 (**permalink**) October 21st, 2008, 02:43 PM

Hobeich's original description leads me to ask the question.....what will the DFR intake do to correct the problem he had? This problem was due to the boot falling off the throttle body, not dirt penetrating through the air filter.

I just got my RZR this week, it is a 2009 LE and it has the new air filter, and new boot, but no lip on the throttle body. I had 1.5 hours on it before I installed my DFR intake. When I did I tightened up the hose clamps on the boot at both ends pretty well, but I could see the boot on the throttle body end slide backward the more I tightened it. So I stopped and I will check after each ride for a while. But the DFR kit doesn't change how the boot attaches to the throttle body. So how would it fix this problem? I am worried that I might have this problem too. However, the new boot does have flex points so maybe it won't be as likely to move because of that. Maybe the new is the solution? Or am I missing something?

Hobeich · #10 (**permalink**) October 21st, 2008, 04:05 PM

That is a good question. I was thinking about that too. I have new air filter system, just have not put it on but it will not fix the poor design of the throttle body. I am not sure if other throttle bodies on the market will have a better area to attach the boot. I hope that polaris will figure something out. Anyone knows how I can place a complaint to polaris about this bad design before a lot of us have this problem.

Hobeich · #11 (**permalink**) October 21st, 2008, 07:18 PM

Just so you all know they did not have to re-build my motor they said that the compression was good and then the dirt never made it past the throttle body. They think that polaris will cover the 100 dollar bill. Also any of you know much about the KMS air filter system?

Rzr in NH · #12 (**permalink**) October 21st, 2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by walbright

Hobeich's original description leads me to ask the question.....what will the DFR intake do to correct the problem he had? This problem was due to the boot falling off the throttle body, not dirt penetrating through the air filter.

I just got my RZR this week, it is a 2009 LE and it has the new air filter, and new boot, but no lip on the throttle body. I had 1.5 hours on it before I installed my DFR intake. When I did I tightened up the hose clamps on the boot at both ends pretty well, but I could see the boot on the throttle body end slide backward the more I tightened it. So I stopped and I will check after each ride for a while. But the DFR kit doesn't change how the boot attaches to the throttle body. So how would it fix this problem? I am worried that I might have this problem too. However, the new boot does have flex points so maybe it won't be as likely to move because of that. Maybe the new is the solution? Or am I missing something?

make a long story short. The dfr and most aftermarket intakes mount to the engine with the tb so there is no movement between the 2 so hence the boot shall never come off.

Hobeich · #13 (**permalink**) October 21st, 2008, 09:32 PM

I see, that helps out a lot, thanks

jlestanguet · #14 (**permalink**) October 23rd, 2008, 08:41 AM

the KMS still uses the stock box witch is mounted to the frame not the motor and you could still have the problem of the intake boot coming off.