2 suggestions on forum editing

[guy48065]

1 - Don't limit the time "window" during which you can edit your own posts. If I make a mistake or if I want to make a run-on post I'd like to be able to make changes days later.

2 - Why have vendors moderate their own sections? That isn't going to encourage honest discussion or criticism. Example: What happened here?:
I missed this exchange and looking at it now it appears someone criticized the product and then his posts were deleted. That leaves a bad impression of the participants, the product and the forum.

[keowee1]

I AREE WITH GUY48065!!! the whole point of a forum is to be able to openly discuss our RZR's and all products to go with them!! If any of us wanted to be censored wewould be at the "other" forum!! If venders are offering a good product theywill be able to defend any criticism offered by a member. The best way to look at it is look at any complaints or quirks and the vender or maufactorer has FREE research on improving there product or getting a new idea for a after market product. Polaris is a good example. If you look at the gen 1 thruough gen3 there have been ALOT of changes made to make it a better machine. I promise someone from there is reading these forums. Stiffer spring on gas pedal, floor board design etc. Open discussion is just good business....Its called capitalism...welcome to america

[Alexlebrit]

I can't speak for this site but there's valid reasons for having a time limit on editing.

1. In a flame war it prevents people going back editing a comment and then saying "No, I didn't say that, look"
2. Editing your own post with additional material is good, but if people hoave posted after, and others use the View New Posts function, they won't see your edited comments

As for moderating, that's a different comment.

[BKozan]

As Alex said, there is good reason for having a "window of opportunity" to edit posts. First is as he said, with members claiming "It never happened". Secondly is simply to help other members get all the information and updates. For example, when editing a post the thread does not get bumped. Users browsing the forums don't see the thread as having any new content, and users utilizing the "New Posts" or "Instant EMail Notification" don't see the new content at all. I can understand that sometimes it is good to be able to edit the first post in a thread, as a "Master Reference" of sorts, but unfortunately I don't have that much flexibility in the forum software. If this is ever the case, please feel free to PM me personally and I'll be glad to help.

As for the vendor forums, we appreciate your feedback and suggestions but we are unable to change the rules in this area. Vendors are encouraged to utilize this space in whatever way they would like, as long as it falls within the Site and Vendor Guidelines. If a vendor begins deleting posts I believe it can reflect poorly on the vendor, but not this site. The vendors own their space and we as administrators do our best to allow them to use it freely. Lastly, when vendors delete posts administrators are still able to view these posts, so if there is an issue we can still mediate.

Thanks for the suggestions, keep them coming and/or post some new arguments for this one - we are listening to you guys and you DO have the power to change the rules!

[guy48065]

Originally Posted by BKozan

As Alex said, there is good reason for having a "window of opportunity" to edit posts. First is as he said, with members claiming "It never happened". Secondly is simply to help other members get all the information and updates. For example, when editing a post the thread does not get bumped. Users browsing the forums don't see the thread as having any new content, and users utilizing the "New Posts" or "Instant EMail Notification" don't see the new content at all.

I just want to comment on these points. First, when you edit your post there is a time stamp added to the bottom of the post so you won't quite get away claiming "it never happened". Second, every time a post is edited in a thread it DOES bump that thread back into the recent posts view. That's why we often see what appears to be a new post only to find no such post made at that time. If you search the thread you'll find an edit at that time.

I recently posted the wrong price in a thread & can't make this simple change (on my own). Also I would have enjoyed repeating my Tire & Wheel thread like I did at PRC that's been viewed over 38,000 times. I keep updating the original post, sort of like you would update a webpage. I feel the edit power would be used for good more than evil

As for the vendor/moderators--I didn't know there was an agreement they would have control over their own section. I'm cool with that. An announcement with the rules in the section would be good.

[BKozan]

Excellent points!

My favorite:

Originally Posted by guy48065

I feel the edit power would be used for good
more than evil

You made a great argument and the settings have been changed! Thanks Mark!

[guy48065]

Getouttatown! Cool...you can always put it back if I'm wrong and folks start revising history.

Thanks!

[ret25yo]

I vote for a member feedback forum/sticky (for classified section).....This would also apply for sponsors as they are members..positive and negative feedback could be displayed and defended (with moderation of course) to enhance the trading and classified feeling of trust.

[keowee1]

great idea!!!!

[ret25yo]

I vote again for a member OR RZR of the month detailing member contributions to the board or member ride specifications to highlight the ability to modify and enhance the rzr

[ret25yo]

bump.... for feedback option as items are selling to other forum members...

[BKozan]

I have never liked the feedback options (or "Reputation"), but if you guys want it - you guys get it! Give me some time to look into it, and we'll get it going asap!

Thanks guys - keep the suggestions coming - this is YOUR forum and we need to know what YOU want!

[killseeker]

i think some one looked at this all wrong.
closing editing to a post, is not a way to stop flaming-wars.
go after the guy that has to come in running off at the key-board, to something that might be a good idea. you can tell if the guy has any brains or not, real fast. we all or most of us drive a RzR.
and we most likely have the same problems.
but when a guy coms out with something to fix a problem that every body has. here comes the NEI-SAYERS. they will go against any good your trying to put up.
Most every body has had something to say about the JUMPY-THROTTLE.
well i fixed it 2 days after i got my RzR.
and tried to tell people here how it could be fixed. not just patched over the problem and make it seem fixed, with a heave spring or sponge, but fix the problem, and kind of give you a cruse control at the same time.
but it looked like the flaming wars was on.
and they killed every thread i tried to tell people about the fix.
i have showed dealers this fix, and they can't believe the differents it makes. i invited people out that didn't beleive it worked, but no one wanted the proof, they just wanted to shoot down the post.
EDITING TIME Limits are not the problems on Flaming-wars
it is shutting the flame-throwers.

lot of people come here with the best they have, some of it is even in their writing skills,
and people here will still trash them for that, instead of what they have to say.
these are the things you should be looking into, for a clean forum.
editing limits are just a small thing.