air cleaner problem

[rzrgrl]

Your dealer should have updated it with no charge it was a recall.. Mine did

[papaglock]

One problem I dont see an easy fix for is the connection where the rubber boot slips on the throttle body. I have been building a snorkel system and removed the filter housing to work on it. I placed the throttle body boot on, and tightened the clamp. I worked on some tubing and came back only to find the boot had slipped off. I put it back on and tightened the clamp. I was amazed to see the boot slowly slide right off! This is what has me concerned. I wound up wiring the boot onto the the throttle body. I have a zillion hours invested in the airbox/snorkel kit. I would not have done anything if there was not a problem.

[guy48065]

When you think you're done taking the boot on & off clean it real good with a solvent like brake cleaner (the throttle body nose, too). Smear a little black RTV on the throttle body with your finger & reinstall the boot. Don't overtighten the clamp or it will squeeze the boot off.

[papaglock]

That is what I eventually did. I also wired the boot to the throttle body. On the top of the throttle body there are 2 tabs with holes all the way through. On the bottom, there are 2 tabs but no holes. I was going to use safety wire but could not find my safety wire pliers. I used high end electrical wire with a urethane insulation. I looped it under the throttle body around the tabs and through a second hose clap then through the tab on top and crimped a high end connector to tie it all together. I cant see any way the boot could come off now.

[Schwenddog]

AMEN Brother! Don't let the big guys stroke you over a barrel!! All too often we just roll over and take it and say "oohhhh" they got me this time, but i wont let it happen again! Well lets back rzr freak and take it to them! Just to get the machines fixed and set up for the next group of future rzr riders!!!!!!

I dont have mine yet, so i cant be on your list, but i encourage everyone else that has one and that has had this problem to speak up!

[LTZ470]

I used electrical rubberized tape (You stretch it to intialize it and make it stick) on both ends of the boot, it sticks to the throttle body and then it sticks to the boot when it is clamped on...not easy to get off when you loosen the clamps, but with a little finesse it'll come off...one wrap is sufficient, but I used 2 wraps...

[Commadore]

A few facts:

Rzrfreak did not know what Generations were or how many years the RZR had been in production. This is clearly something that someone who is proposing a lawsuit against a huge company such as Polaris should have a keen knowledge of prior to crafting such a lawsuit.

Typing in capital letters on the internet is perceived as hollering and typically is not as well received by a reader as a message that contains proper case, spelling, grammar and punctuation.

Commadore is a name. Commodore is a rank. Once again, Mdevans, you have clearly demonstrated to us all your superior command of the English language.

While Rzrfreak's intentions are quite admirable his/her approach could use some refining in order to achieve the desired goal of obtaining the backing and support of all whom might be reading these threads on this forum.

[shanep]

Originally Posted by LTZ470

Already changed mine to an K&N Apollo...the stocker is sitting in the garage...

Hope you know that by changing the filter by its self won't fix this problem. I have had the hose between the air box and the intake come off twice at the intake side. This allows dirt and sand to be sucked directly into the motor. This is a devastating problem and should be fixed before you go out riding. Especially if you are out of warranty. I was under warranty and they have given me a new top end. however, the original problem has not been fixed
or attempted to be addressed. Go Figure.

[guy48065]

The K&N Apollo isn't just a filter--it's a whole system that includes the filter, canister and hoses. It would replace the entire Rzr intake tract & can draw air from anywhere you choose to locate the end of the hose.

I'd like to see them come out with a little larger and more user-friendly canister but otherwise it's a big step in the right direction.

[guy48065]

Careful--harassing and badgering a member is a violation of the TOU policy here. Wouldn't want to lose one of our most interesting and outspoken members...

[johnnycat8]

hmmmmmmm i wonder if rzr freak is the lawyer????????????????
looking for ammo for his case??????? and mine is fine also!!!!
my one and only take on this post.....john

also a note rzr freak's only post is this topic.

also in the wrong area as in a person with little rzr experiance.

dosnt seem to know a thing about his rzr but! is a expert on the air box.(even thought he called it a air cleaner as in car...)

every one posting something but praise his next post was to get a hold of him for the action
as they say if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck , and looks like one , it must be.....

and if your dealer is your best sorce of input , id love to see a real polaris dealer testify in court for you....lol can you say ex dealer? not going to happen . you need hard printed facts from polaris stating that they are aware of this problem, and also stating dont fix it under warnty or also stating to tell the customer we wont fix it.....also remember, alot of dealers are independt stores not run or controlled by polaris....so your dealer may be stating his own personal shop rules....not polaris.

[jaykay]

I have a Gen 3 and have kept VERY close attention to the airbox/intake issue. I have had no dust in the throttle body and I have checked after every ride. I am curious as to whether polaris has addressed the issue on Gen 3 or if I just got a good one. Either way....I have owned and still own a couple of 100k+ sports cars that have required modifications to run to there best ability.
The rzr is a relatively small production run item and you should not be suprised that there may be some weaknesses....that is part of the game. You are not buying a honda accord.

I understand your frustration....it is not right, but it is the way it is, in small production items, whether it is a 700k sports car or a 10k dollar toy. Just my 2 cents worth.

[LTZ470]

Originally Posted by shanep

Hope you know that by changing the filter by its self won't fix this problem. I have had the hose between the air box and the intake come off twice at the intake side. This allows dirt and sand to be sucked directly into the motor. This is a devastating problem and should be fixed before you go out riding. Especially if you are out of warranty. I was under warranty and they have given me a new top end. however, the original problem has not been fixed
or attempted to be addressed. Go Figure.

After careful research I installed the K&N Apollo. The Throttle Body Boot End was wrapped with Electrical Rubberized Tape that you stretch to initialize the stickiness or adhesion then the boot was put onto this and tightened, the rubberized tape sticks to the rubber boot also. Same was done on the K&N Filter inlet to Throttle Body Rubber Boot. It's a little difficult to get off because it does stick to the surfaces but you don't have to worry about it coming/slipping off under load...the Apollo System works great and I had Outerwears make me a prefilter for it so it is even better now...

[RZRider]

You guys can state your opinions and tell your story PLEASE don't insult each other, nothing gets acccomplished and you know I'm just going to delete it.

[mdevans]

all i can tell you is look at the place they put the air filter housing this is not a good place for the filter housing. And if so many people are getting dust past the filter its because they are running in true dusty area's. for long hours. not much dust at the dunes and sand is thicker than dust. and before you say it i know that sand gets into everything. but sand dont go through a filter. and in light dust i dont have trouble. and when i run quads in heavy dust i dont have this trouble. I think its because the filter is just above where the tire through dust and its to much for the air system to handle. and if rzr freak is a lawyer great im ok with that and if he needs help isent this the place to come for help on an rzr. why do people feel the need to badger him just because there not having the same trouble. If your rzr blew an engine because of the air system dident do its job you would be pissed off at polaris and you know it. like i said save your negitivity for another post and let the members that want to take a stand take a stand you have nothing to lose. thank you.